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In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 16:44
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In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.

A. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
B. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
C. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
D. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
E. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 16:49
Straight A. I feel it is the only choice which uses past perfect properly.
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In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.

A. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been

B. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
C. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
D. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
E. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 17:09
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In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.

A. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
B. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
C. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
D. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
E. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be


D is my take.

I eliminated B and E because of the use of "took" changes the meaning of the sentence. We have three events here. We are talking about the effort of creating the dictionary, and we need "would" to convey the estimated and uncertain timing of the creation of dictionary.

C is out because of "being"
A is not correct either. The meaning of "had been" suggests that the dictionary was continuously born until the time of its creation.
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 17:11
Actually you're right. Had been implies that it was born AFTER the 60 years. On second thoughts I agree with D.
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 17:44
i dont get why B would be wrong?

i mean..it saying the project took 60 years to comple..and as a result the Oxford Dictionary was born..? whats wrong with that?
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 17:47
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i dont get why B would be wrong?

i mean..it saying the project took 60 years to comple..and as a result the Oxford Dictionary was born..? whats wrong with that?


It's all about meaning :wink:
I believe the intended meaning here is estimation of project length at the time when the effort was launched. This means "would" is correct usage for uncertainty.
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 27 Apr 2008, 22:05
choosing between A C D,

D is better using "was"
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 16:30
Well, i still dont buy why "would" is used?
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 22 Jun 2011, 17:23
Tough one! Great question!!

Took a while to decide between B and D....and the use of "would"

D it is...
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 22 Jun 2011, 17:35
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doesnt 'would take' imply that the project isnt yet complete?
or is this a style of writing..?


my take is B..

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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 22 Jun 2011, 17:51
I think took = had been which was not an offered choice, but would take = was with was referring back to the first clause?
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 22 Jun 2011, 22:33
Can someone pls explain whats wrong with B
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 23 Jun 2011, 05:37
For me it looks like someone narrating a incidence of past and would go for B.
Still not able to understand why it is D.

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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 23 Jun 2011, 06:39
I also didn't understand why not B?
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To understand this question in its right perspective, let us put ourselves in 1860 and look ahead from then on.

In 1860, the project was just launched and certainly it had not taken 60 years nor took 60 years at the point. It would be taking a further 60 years to complete. Hence ‘took’ is wrong and ‘would take’ is right

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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2011, 16:28
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In 1860, the project was just launched and certainly it had not taken 60 years nor took 60 years at the point. It would be taking a further 60 years to complete. Hence ‘took’ is wrong and ‘would take’ is right


I agree with you till this point - It would take 60 years to complete but why do we have "Oxford was born".

Current scenario - In 2011 Jan I embarked on mission MBA; Although it would take 1 year to complete, GMAT score was born.

After 10 years - In 2011 I embarked on mission MBA; Although it would take 1 year to complete, GMAT score was born.

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After 10 years - In 2011 I embarked on mission MBA; Although it took 1 year to complete, GMAT score was born.

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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 24 Jul 2011, 19:50
In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.

B) took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
D) would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was

i also got this one wrong.... but however giving some more time to this question explains the right solution of it.

in B, both the tenses are in simple past, so a dictionary cannot be born (initiated) at the same time it is completed..

the sequencing of events is important.

the oxford dictionary had been born - means the oxford dictionary was started.. now the started has to be before the dictionary was completed..
so one way of that is - the project took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford dictionary had been born.. but we don't have this option.

so the Oxford dictionary was born is in simple past .. in line with 'its launched' mentioned in the non-underlined part. and the dictionary would take more than 60 years to complete is in future tense, considering the tense of its start time..

so D is correct in that sense..
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 23 Sep 2011, 19:39
I agree with the OE.

It should be B IMO.

In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create..... Although,......project took..

I will have to use would only if I had to say project will take 60 years to complete it. I'd say would take more than 60 years to complete.

Moreover, would makes it a hypothetical clause.
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Re: SC: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2011, 09:06
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In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.

A. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
B. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
C. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
D. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
E. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be


"would" signifies uncertainty, so we keep "would" in answer choices.
Hence (B) and (E) are out.

(A) "Oxford English Dictionary" was born after the effort was launched. So "had been" is incorrect.
(C) "Oxford English Dictionary" was born after the effort was launched. So "was being" is incorrect.

(D) remains and is the answer.

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Re: In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to [#permalink] New post 01 Dec 2011, 00:53
Fistail wrote:
In 1860, the Philological Society launched its effort to create a dictionary more comprehensive than the world had ever seen; although the project would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been born.

A. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary had been
B. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
C. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was being
D. would take more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was
E. took more than 60 years to complete, the Oxford English Dictionary was about to be


i think B would be the answer if 'had been' were used instead of 'was'. birth of dictionary and 60 years of completion work can not happen simultaneously.

choice D correctly uses 'was' since 'would take' is not simple past tense and hence there is no need to use 'had been' (this is the reason why choice A is not correct)
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