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# In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage

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In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage [#permalink]  17 Oct 2010, 00:23
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In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

(A) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

(B) had wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries had scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will made her dream come true
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© had wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but a resolute missionary will in a span of 15 years had made her dream come true

(D) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will make her dream come true

(E) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries would scoff at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true
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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  17 Oct 2010, 00:29
i think the C is the answer as everything is in the past and " but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will make her dream come true" is in future

if everything would have been in past with the first part ocurring before the other then " but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will make her dream come true" should be in past tense while "wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her" in past perfect tense
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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  17 Oct 2010, 05:49
daagh wrote:
Shall we wait until at least five answers for revealing the QA?

I have a feeling I am wrong on this one. Just waiting anxiously for the OA. Tenses really confuse the hell out of me. I mean I know how to use the tenses but thats not good enough.
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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  17 Oct 2010, 08:04
daagh wrote:
Concept: When we have a series of events that occurred in the past and ended the past, the last of the events entails a simple past and the previous events, any number, one or more, will entail past perfect.
In the given issue
First event: In the 1950s, Mother wanted to form an orphanage
Second event: her adversaries scoffed at her
Third and the last event: in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

As per the thumb rule, the last event should be in the simple past as - a resolute missionary will made her dream come true -

The previous two events will take on the past perfect verbs as – Mother had wanted to …….. And her adversaries had scoffed at her

B only wins the tense debate, doesn’t it? Well! that has not come out as a choice so far.

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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  18 Nov 2010, 19:06
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Nice question. Tenses make me tense! Narrowed it down to A and B. Chose B.
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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  18 Nov 2010, 21:28
B.
since the event being past perfect
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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  24 Oct 2011, 22:05
This is one of wired question I have seen on this forum .I respect Daagh ,but
We are here to learn from a question whatever it presents especially in GMAT context..
I don't think i got any thing from this question .
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Re: Mother Theresa and the tense debate [#permalink]  29 Oct 2011, 03:13
daagh wrote:
In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

(A) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

(B) had wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries had scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will made her dream come true
[highlight][/highlight]
© had wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but a resolute missionary will in a span of 15 years had made her dream come true

(D) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will make her dream come true

(E) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries would scoff at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

Past perfect required for this sentence. Hence B wins. I went for A initially, but realized my mistake.
The event that Mother Teresa wanted to form an orphanage happened before the 2nd even of her adversaries scoffing at her. Hence perfect tense necessary. C is wrong bcoz of modifier issues.
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Re: In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage [#permalink]  19 Mar 2015, 03:42
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In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage [#permalink]  22 Mar 2015, 08:12
daagh wrote:
In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

(A) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

(B) had wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries had scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will made her dream come true

© had wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but a resolute missionary will in a span of 15 years had made her dream come true

(D) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries scoffed at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will make her dream come true

(E) wanted to form an orphanage with only three pounds and God behind her, her adversaries would scoff at her, but in a span of 15 years, a resolute missionary will had made her dream come true

Nice Trick Question. Few key points to consider.
1. resolute missionary will had made: this sounds awful but when looked carefully it makes total sense by breaking the terms.

2. Now that we have got the above S+V combo clear. we look at the options.

A. had made her dream come true use of verb tense(past perfect) is wrong here considering the event (her adversaries scoffed at her) occurred earlier than this one.

B. Two related events in the past and hence the use of past perfect to clarify which event occurred earlier (by placing 'HAD' before them). CORRECT.

C. Verb tense error. Had wanted and 'scoffed' occurred together in the past so use of past perfect in one and not in the other is unjustified. Secondly, "will in a span of 15 years had made her dream come true" incorrect preposition placement and again improper usage of past perfect.

D. Changes the tense completely. Event Starts of in 1950 and then a resolute missionary will "make"!!!!...verb tense error.

E. Same error as A. In addition, the usage of 'would' is inappropriate as it points towards days in the future past and here this would alter the intended meaning.

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Re: In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage [#permalink]  19 Jun 2015, 03:36
A Very good question.

Tense/Verb forms are really tricky like this.

The "wanting for an orphanage" and "scoffing of adverseries(when she wanted it might I add)" happened at the same time followed by "making of the orphanage".

That is option B.

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Re: In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage [#permalink]  20 Jun 2015, 21:11
What verbal time is "will made"??? From where is this question?
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Re: In 1950s, when Mother Theresa wanted to form an orphanage [#permalink]  21 Jun 2015, 05:52
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What verbal time is "will made"??? From where is this question?

Hi,

Here "will" is a noun and not the "will" which is used as a verb to show something in future.

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