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In a certain appliance store, each model of television is uniquely designated by a code made up of a particular ordered pair of letters. If the store has 60 different models of televisions, what is the minimum number of letters that must be used to make the codes?

A. 6
B. 7
C. 8
D. 9
E. 10


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In a certain appliance store, each model of television is uniquely designated by a code made up of a particular ordered pair of letters. If the store has 60 different models of televisions, what is the minimum number of letters that must be used to make the codes?

A. 6
B. 7
C. 8
D. 9
E. 10


I think the official answer supplied by PR is incorrect.
I Feel that D is the correct answer, they say C.
Am I missing something?


If n is the number of distinct letters used to create the two lettered codes, then a total of \(n * n = n^2\) different codes can be created. We need \(n^2\geq60\). The smallest n which fulfills this condition is n = 8.

Answer C
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In a certain appliance store, each model of television is uniquely designated by a code made up of a particular ordered pair of letters. If the store has 60 different models of televisions, what is the minimum number of letters that must be used to make the codes?

A. 6
B. 7
C. 8
D. 9
E. 10


I think the official answer supplied by PR is incorrect.
I Feel that D is the correct answer, they say C.
Am I missing something?


Notice that we are not told that letters in two-letter code must be different. For example three letters A, B, and C give the following codes:
AA;
BB;
CC;
AB;
BA;
AC;
CA;
BC;
CB.

So, if we have \(n\) distinct letters, then we can make \(n^2\) different codes (since each X in XX code can take \(n\) values). As there are 60 different models of TV then \(n^2\geq{60}\) must hold true. Since \(n\) must be an integer then the least value of \(n\) is 8.

Answer: C.

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Re: In a certain appliance store, each model of television is [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2013, 02:36
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Notice that we are not told that letters in two-letter code must be different.

Hey Bunuel,

One doubt regarding this question. Doesn't the phrase "ordered pair" mean nothing in the question? My inference was as it is an ordered pair it should be in alphabetical order.

Please clarify. Thanks.

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One doubt regarding this question. Doesn't the phrase "ordered pair" mean nothing in the question? My inference was as it is a ordered pair it should be in alphabetical order.

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An ordered pair of letters mean that code AB considered different from code BA, so both are possible.
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Re: In a certain appliance store, each model of television is [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2014, 21:57
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In a certain appliance store, each model of television is [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2015, 13:48
If we assume code length to be 3 i.e. ABC,AAA,AAB...SO on.. minimum number of letters required would be 4.
n^3 >=60 =>n =4

Question is framed incorrectly because it has not mentioned the code length.
If length is 2, 8 will be the answer.If length is 3 ,4 will be the answer.
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If we assume code length to be 3 i.e. ABC,AAA,AAB...SO on.. minimum number of letters required would be 4.
n^3 >=60 =>n =4

Question is framed incorrectly because it has not mentioned the code length.
If length is 2, 8 will be the answer.If length is 3 ,4 will be the answer.


In a certain appliance store, each model of television is uniquely designated by a code made up of a particular ordered pair of letters. If the store has 60 different models of televisions, what is the minimum number of letters that must be used to make the codes?

Pair means two.
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Re: In a certain appliance store, each model of television is [#permalink] New post 30 Jun 2015, 05:08
Bunuel wrote:
thebogie17 wrote:
In a certain appliance store, each model of television is uniquely designated by a code made up of a particular ordered pair of letters. If the store has 60 different models of televisions, what is the minimum number of letters that must be used to make the codes?

A. 6
B. 7
C. 8
D. 9
E. 10


I think the official answer supplied by PR is incorrect.
I Feel that D is the correct answer, they say C.
Am I missing something?


Notice that we are not told that letters in two-letter code must be different. For example three letters A, B, and C give the following codes:
AA;
BB;
CC;
AB;
BA;
AC;
CA;
BC;
CB.

So, if we have \(n\) distinct letters, then we can make \(n^2\) different codes (since each X in XX code can take \(n\) values). As there are 60 different models of TV then \(n^2\geq{60}\) must hold true. Since \(n\) must be an integer then the least value of \(n\) is 8.

Answer: C.


Hope it helps.


Hi Bunuel,
If the prompt restricts the duplication of a letter, can I use permutation in that case? if yes, we need more than 8 so 8p2=72.

Is it correct?

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Re: In a certain appliance store, each model of television is [#permalink] New post 30 Jun 2015, 05:31
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Bunuel wrote:
thebogie17 wrote:
In a certain appliance store, each model of television is uniquely designated by a code made up of a particular ordered pair of letters. If the store has 60 different models of televisions, what is the minimum number of letters that must be used to make the codes?

A. 6
B. 7
C. 8
D. 9
E. 10


I think the official answer supplied by PR is incorrect.
I Feel that D is the correct answer, they say C.
Am I missing something?


Notice that we are not told that letters in two-letter code must be different. For example three letters A, B, and C give the following codes:
AA;
BB;
CC;
AB;
BA;
AC;
CA;
BC;
CB.

So, if we have \(n\) distinct letters, then we can make \(n^2\) different codes (since each X in XX code can take \(n\) values). As there are 60 different models of TV then \(n^2\geq{60}\) must hold true. Since \(n\) must be an integer then the least value of \(n\) is 8.

Answer: C.


Hope it helps.


Hi Bunuel,
If the prompt restricts the duplication of a letter, can I use permutation in that case? if yes, we need more than 8 so 8p2=72.

Is it correct?

Thanks


Hi ,
if the prompt restricts the usage
first place can be filled by n letters and 2nd place by n-1 letters..
so total ways n(n-1), which same as np2..
so you are correct....
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