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In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates [#permalink]
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In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates (d, d), where d > 0. Point A and the origin form the endpoints of a diameter of circle C. What fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant?

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
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Ok so I am typing this on my mobile with imagination... Imagine a square of side 1 and a circle circumscribed.. Qn is what is the area that is lying on the 2 bulging sides.. Area of square = 1 area of circle = pi/2

The area of 4 bulging sides = (pi/2-1) Fraction of circle area inside 1st Q= [pi/2-1/2(pi/2-1)]/pi/2 = (pi/2-pi/4+1/2)/(pi/2) = (pi/4+1/2)/(pi/2) = (pi+2)/2pi

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Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
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Financier wrote:

In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates (d, d), where d > 0. Point A and the origin form the endpoints of a diameter of circle C. What fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant?

Answer-choises will come later.

Look a the diagram:

Attachment:

CS.jpg [ 22.42 KiB | Viewed 4413 times ]

We have circle with radius=1 and square inscribed in it. Now imagine the base of square to be x-axis and left side of square to be y-axis. We need to find the ratio of area of a circle without the red parts to the area of whole circle.

Area of a circle is C=\pi{r^2}=\pi; Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

Ratio of the are of this region to area of a circle is \frac{\frac{\pi+2}{2}}{\pi}=\frac{\pi+2}{2\pi}.

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
23 Oct 2010, 12:33

Let us assume A to be (1,1).Then, distance from origin = sqrt 2 = Diagonal of square = Diameter of circle.

Area of square = 1 sq units and Area of circle = Pi r^2 = Pi (sqrt 2 / 2)^2 = Pi / 2

Area of 4 bulging sides = (Pi/2) - 1 = (Pi - 2) / 2 and Area of 2 bulging side = (Pi - 2) / 4.

Therefore, required fraction = Area of 2 bulging side / Area of circle = [(Pi - 2) / 4] / (Pi/2) = Pi -2 / 2Pi.

But answer posted by Bunuel is : Pi + 2 / 2Pi and I take his explainations as absolute. Since I got a different answer....please explain where I am wrong.

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
19 Apr 2012, 21:08

mainhoon wrote:

Ok so I am typing this on my mobile with imagination... Imagine a square of side 1 and a circle circumscribed.. Qn is what is the area that is lying on the 2 bulging sides.. Area of square = 1 area of circle = pi/2

The area of 4 bulging sides = (pi/2-1) Fraction of circle area inside 1st Q= [pi/2-1/2(pi/2-1)]/pi/2 = (pi/2-pi/4+1/2)/(pi/2) = (pi/4+1/2)/(pi/2) = (pi+2)/2pi

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Re: In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates [#permalink]
08 Aug 2012, 07:57

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Re: In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates [#permalink]
08 Aug 2012, 16:41

es we can do it by taking any value for (d,d) and calculating the area deducting the sector. Take (d,d) as 2,2. the dia meter becomes 2 root 2 and radius root2 so area of circle = 2pie area of 2 sectors= 2*(90/360)*2 pie = pie But have to add another half of square = 1/2 * 4 = 2 So area in 1st quadrant = 2pie-pie+2= pie+2 and area of circle = 2pie So ratio= (2+pie)/2pie _________________

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
23 Jan 2013, 09:15

Bunuel wrote:

Financier wrote:

In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates (d, d), where d > 0. Point A and the origin form the endpoints of a diameter of circle C. What fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant?

Answer-choises will come later.

Look a the diagram:

Attachment:

CS.jpg

We have circle with radius=1 and square inscribed in it. Now imagine the base of square to be x-axis and left side of square to be y-axis. We need to find the ratio of area of a circle without the red parts to the area of whole circle.

Area of a circle is C=\pi{r^2}=\pi; Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

Ratio of the are of this region to area of a circle is \frac{\frac{\pi+2}{2}}{\pi}=\frac{\pi+2}{2\pi}.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.

Hi,

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

is already describing the circle's portion, which is available in 1st Q. why we have again check for the ratio b/w this and circle again.I got this doubt since question has asked us to find the fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant.

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
23 Jan 2013, 13:19

FTG wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

Financier wrote:

In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates (d, d), where d > 0. Point A and the origin form the endpoints of a diameter of circle C. What fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant?

Answer-choises will come later.

Look a the diagram:

Attachment:

CS.jpg

We have circle with radius=1 and square inscribed in it. Now imagine the base of square to be x-axis and left side of square to be y-axis. We need to find the ratio of area of a circle without the red parts to the area of whole circle.

Area of a circle is C=\pi{r^2}=\pi; Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

Ratio of the are of this region to area of a circle is \frac{\frac{\pi+2}{2}}{\pi}=\frac{\pi+2}{2\pi}.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.

Hi,

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

is already describing the circle's portion, which is available in 1st Q. why we have again check for the ratio b/w this and circle again.I got this doubt since question has asked us to find the fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant.

Kindly help me understand ..

The question asks for "fraction" or "proportion" of the circle. (e.g. say 1/2 or 3/5th of circle lies in the first quadrant) Hence you need to take the ratio of Area (in 1st quadrant) to Total area to find the fraction. _________________

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
04 Feb 2013, 08:37

Bunuel wrote:

Financier wrote:

In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates (d, d), where d > 0. Point A and the origin form the endpoints of a diameter of circle C. What fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant?

Answer-choises will come later.

Look a the diagram:

Attachment:

CS.jpg

We have circle with radius=1 and square inscribed in it. Now imagine the base of square to be x-axis and left side of square to be y-axis. We need to find the ratio of area of a circle without the red parts to the area of whole circle.

Area of a circle is C=\pi{r^2}=\pi; Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

Ratio of the are of this region to area of a circle is \frac{\frac{\pi+2}{2}}{\pi}=\frac{\pi+2}{2\pi}.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.

Quote:

Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

is this because you are taking into account the portion of the square which doesnt touch the red parts of the circle? Since area of Square is A = a^2 ?

Re: What fraction of the area of circle C lies within ... [#permalink]
05 Feb 2013, 02:40

Expert's post

pharm wrote:

Bunuel wrote:

Financier wrote:

In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates (d, d), where d > 0. Point A and the origin form the endpoints of a diameter of circle C. What fraction of the area of circle C lies within the first quadrant?

Answer-choises will come later.

Look a the diagram:

Attachment:

CS.jpg

We have circle with radius=1 and square inscribed in it. Now imagine the base of square to be x-axis and left side of square to be y-axis. We need to find the ratio of area of a circle without the red parts to the area of whole circle.

Area of a circle is C=\pi{r^2}=\pi; Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

Area of a circle without the red parts is C-\frac{C-S}{2}=\pi-\frac{\pi-2}{2}=\frac{\pi+2}{2};

Ratio of the are of this region to area of a circle is \frac{\frac{\pi+2}{2}}{\pi}=\frac{\pi+2}{2\pi}.

Answer: D.

Hope it's clear.

Quote:

Area of a square is half of the product of diagonals, as diagonal equals to 2r=2, then S=\frac{2^2}{2}=2;

is this because you are taking into account the portion of the square which doesnt touch the red parts of the circle? Since area of Square is A = a^2 ?

If I understand correctly you are asking about the area of a square: area_{square}=side^2=\frac{diagonal^2}{2}. This is a general formula for the area of any square.

Re: In a rectangular coordinate system, point A has coordinates [#permalink]
05 Feb 2013, 04:55

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pharm wrote:

Yea, thank you cleared things up

Forgot to mention that the area of a rhombus is also equals to half of the product of diagonals: area_{rhombus}=\frac{d_1*d_2}{2}, where d_1 and d_2 are the lengths of the diagonals (or bh, where b is the length of the base and h is the altitude). _________________