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In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.

A. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them
B. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
C. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
D. creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them
E. the creating of Buddha images accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy as well as construction and decoration of the temples that enshrined them
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"they" is "Buddha images", as should be clear from context.
two things:
* "local artisans" is technically not a possible antecedent for this pronoun, since it's possessive. (you technically can't use a non-possessive pronoun to refer to a possessive noun. the reverse is NOT true - you can totally use possessive pronouns to refer to non-possessive nouns.)
* even if this pronoun were technically ambiguous, that's not a reason to eliminate it. see here: post35595.html#p35595

by the way, it's weird that you would ask this question about (b) in particular - because exactly the same pronoun is used in exactly the same context in your other choice, (c). did you notice that?
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Hi, there! I'm happy to help with this. :)

Original sentence: In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.

First of all, notice the idiom with the verb "to expend." When I expend my energies, with the intended result of giving my energy to X, we say that "I expend my energies on X", not "I expend my energies for X." That eliminates answer choice A.

Notice also, what the original sentence is trying to do is construct a valid parallel structure. The "local artisan's creative energy" went to two places: (a) "creation of Buddha images", and (b) the work they did constructing & decorating temples. The correct sentence should have a valid parallel structure between those two elements. This is another flaw of answer (A) --- "the creation" vs. "they constructed and decorated". Not parallel. :-(

Answer (C) repeats that problem: "the creation" vs. "constructing and decorating". Not parallel. :-(

Answer (E) repeats that problem: "the creating" vs. "construction and decoration". Not parallel. :-(


That narrows the choice down to (B) vs. (D).

Notice that (D) is very wordy; it has an indirect inactive structure (from "artisans expended energy on X", active, to "X accounted for artisans energy", passive and weak). :-(

(B) gets the idiom ("expended on") correct; it gets the parallel structure correct; and it's a direct & active formulation of the information. Yeah! This is our best choice. :)

Does that made sense? Please let me know if you have any questions.

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hey Mike,,

Can we eliminate A on the ground of "when" ?
D and E for the verb-ING modifier at the beginning which has no subject and then choose between B and C?

i also did not understand the ll structure that you have refered ..Could you please explain that again
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D and E for the verb-ING modifier at the beginning which has no subject and then choose between B and C?


Actually the way "verb-ING modifier" is used in D and E, it is a "gerund" (a Noun form) and so, this itself is a subject (and hence does not require any subject). For example:

Swimming is my hobby.

Here the "verb-ING modifier" swimming is a "gerund", a Noun form, and as is evident, it is also the subject.
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Can we eliminate A on the ground of "when" ?
D and E for the verb-ING modifier at the beginning which has no subject and then choose between B and C?
i also did not understand the ll structure that you have referred ..Could you please explain that again

Dear WaterFlowsUp,
I'm happy to respond. BTW, I like your paradoxical screenname. :-)

Question #1: yes, choice (A) is a trainwreck on a number of grounds. The "when" clause is a blatant violation of parallelism, so that's just as good a reason to reject it as is the idiom mistake.

Questions #2: the "-ing" form of a verb has three potential roles
(a) part of a present progressive verb
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-verbs ... ive-tense/
(b) a participle (i.e. a modifier)
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/participle ... -the-gmat/
(c) a gerund (which acts as a noun)
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... d-phrases/
In choice (D) the word "creating" is a gerund, and in fact, the gerund phrase "creating images of Buddha" is the subject of the verb "accounted".
This post discusses distinguishing these three easy-to-confuse grammatical constructions:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/the-ing-form-of-a-verb/

Questions #3: because the parallelism is faulty in many of the incorrect choices, I will diagram the parallelism in choice (B), the OA. First, here's the whole sentence:
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
Now, an attempt at a clear diagram ----
(main clause of sentence:) In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative energy was expended
(first branch of parallelism:) on the creation of Buddha images
(conjunction linking the two parallel branches:) and
(second branch of the parallelism:) on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined

Both branches of the parallelism begin with the preposition "on", and the words in dark green are the parallel words. Notice, all three here are "-tion" nouns, whereas in incorrect answer choices, some are "-tion" noun while others are gerunds or phrases.

Does this make everything clear and answer all of your questions?
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thanks MIke, i usually follow a lot of your posts, especially og solutions...
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hey Mike,

Can we eliminate A on the ground of "when" ?
D and E for the verb-ING modifier at the beginning which has no subject and then choose between B and C?
i also did not understand the ll structure that you have referred ..Could you please explain that again

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I'm happy to respond. BTW, I like your paradoxical screenname. :-)

Question #1: yes, choice (A) is a trainwreck on a number of grounds. The "when" clause is a blatant violation of parallelism, so that's just as good a reason to reject it as is the idiom mistake.

Questions #2: the "-ing" form of a verb has three potential roles
(a) part of a present progressive verb
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-verbs ... ive-tense/
(b) a participle (i.e. a modifier)
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/participle-phrases


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(c) a gerund (which acts as a noun)
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... d-phrases/
In choice (D) the word "creating" is a gerund, and in fact, the gerund phrase "creating images of Buddha" is the subject of the verb "accounted".
This post discusses distinguishing these three easy-to-confuse grammatical constructions:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/the-ing-form-of-a-verb/

Questions #3: because the parallelism is faulty in many of the incorrect choices, I will diagram the parallelism in choice (B), the OA. First, here's the whole sentence:
In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
Now, an attempt at a clear diagram ----
(main clause of sentence:) In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans’ creative energy was expended
(first branch of parallelism:) on the creation of Buddha images
(conjunction linking the two parallel branches:) and
(second branch of the parallelism:) on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined

Both branches of the parallelism begin with the preposition "on", and the words in dark green are the parallel words. Notice, all three here are "-tion" nouns, whereas in incorrect answer choices, some are "-tion" noun while others are gerunds or phrases.

Does this make everything clear and answer all of your questions?
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mike, i am not sure but i assume D is grammatically correct and conveys the correct meaning? correct me if i am mistaken
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In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.

A. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them
B. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
C. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
D. creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them
E. the creating of Buddha images accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy as well as construction and decoration of the temples that enshrined them



I would like to know that in option D creating illogically modifies Thailand implying thailand is creating images of buddha?
and also constructing and decorating does the same thing?

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No, in D, the fragment of the sentence before the comma just provides the context ("where" things happened).
Without the comma, you could argue that creating is modifying Thailand. The comma provides the needed separation.
"Constructing" and "decorating" also do not modify "Thailand."




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In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.

A. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them- EXPENEDED ON IS CORRECT IDIOM, NOT PARALLEL
B. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined CORRECT- CREATION, CONSTRUCTION, DECORATION- PARALLEL
C. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined NOT PARALLEL
D. creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them COMPLEX
E. the creating of Buddha images accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy as well as construction and decoration of the temples that enshrined them NOT PARALLEL
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Although I got this answer correct, but this no way looks like an easy question to be marked a low on difficulty.
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It depends. Easy for someone who knows POE and parallelism.
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Hi everybody,

I am struggling with the correct answer choice B, which I mistakenly crossed off when doing this problem. From MGMAT SC, I learned that you must not put simple gerunds (construction and decoration) and complex gerunds (THE creation) into a parallel construction? Has anybody an explanation?

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Hi everybody,

I am struggling with the correct answer choice B, which I mistakenly crossed off when doing this problem. From MGMAT SC, I learned that you must not put simple gerunds (construction and decoration) and complex gerunds (THE creation) into a parallel construction? Has anybody an explanation?

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I'm happy to respond. :-) With all due respect, my friend, I think you are misunderstanding what a gerund is. A gerund, very specifically, is a verb form, the "-ing" form of a verb. See:
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... d-phrases/
creating
constructing
decorating

Those are gerunds. What MGMAT says about these is perfectly true --- with an article (a, an, the), one becomes a "complex gerund" which could be in parallel with an ordinary noun. Furthermore, we wouldn't put a simple gerund in parallel with a complex gerund. That't the rule for gerunds.

You seem to be confusing all action nouns with gerunds. Anything that ends with "-tion" is a noun. Nouns and gerunds are mutually exclusive. A gerund is a verb-form that is taking the role of a noun, but it is very different from a bonafide noun. Many "-tion" nouns are action words, but those are all nouns: they are NOT gerunds.
creation
construction
decoration

Those are nouns, not gerunds. The rules for gerunds (simple vs. complex) are 100% irrelevant to nouns. We are perfectly able to put any noun in parallel with any other noun. The logic & meaning would provide constraints to what would make a legitimate parallel structure, but the presence or absence of articles doesn't matter in the least. Option (B) does not contain a single gerund, so any rules governing different types of gerunds is 100% irrelevant to option (B).

Does all this make sense, my friend?
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Easy one. Creation is not gerund.
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Oops! :D Of course... Haha, obviously this was not the brightest moment I had so far. :D Anyway, thank you! This explains a lot.
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In A, 'when' disrupts the parallelism. D and E straight awkward.
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This is the correct version of this sentence (from OG):

In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.

A. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them
B. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
C. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
D. creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them
E. the creation of Buddha images accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy as well as construction and decoration of the temples that enshrined them

the last choice is creation, not creating (in the online OG question bank)

It seems the online OG question bank has this version, as I checked other forums and people have posted creating in answer choice E.
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In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.


A. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them
B. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
C. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
D. creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them
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In ancient Thailand, much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them.

A. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended for the creation of Buddha images and when they constructed and decorated the temples that enshrined them
B. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
C. much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images as well as constructing and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined
D. creating images of Buddha accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy, and also constructing and decorating the temples enshrining them
E. the creating of Buddha images accounted for much of the local artisans' creative energy as well as construction and decoration of the temples that enshrined them


IMHO (B) (With the OA) for the reasons highlighted above... :P
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Note, however, that option B is not perfectly parallel. It lacks a "the" between "on" and "construction and decoration". Hence, there could have been even a better option.

B) much of the local artisans' creative energy was expended on the creation of Buddha images and on construction and decoration of the temples in which they were enshrined.

Could someone please explain the reason/s why I should discard option D?

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