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In December of 1987 an automobile manufacturer pleaded no [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2007, 14:34
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374. In December of 1987 an automobile manufacturer pleaded no contest to criminal charges of odometer tampering and agreed to pay more than $16 million in civil damages for cars that were test-driven with their odometers disconnected.
(A) cars that were test-driven with their odometers disconnected
(B) cars that it had test-driven with their disconnected odometers
(C) its cars having been test-driven with disconnected odometers
(D) having test-driven cars with their odometers disconnected
(E) having cars that were test-driven with disconnected odometers
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 10 Apr 2007, 18:40
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374. In December of 1987 an automobile manufacturer pleaded no contest to criminal charges of odometer tampering and agreed to pay more than $16 million in civil damages for cars that were test-driven with their odometers disconnected.
(A) cars that were test-driven with their odometers disconnected
(B) cars that it had test-driven with their disconnected odometers
(C) its cars having been test-driven with disconnected odometers
(D) having test-driven cars with their odometers disconnected
(E) having cars that were test-driven with disconnected odometers


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A,B,C,E->eliminated because damaged are paid for someaction/violation
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 [#permalink] New post 11 Apr 2007, 14:49
OA is D. Thanks guys
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 23 May 2010, 10:14
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could you please explain what's wrong with E?
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 25 May 2010, 09:26
E is wrong because it conveys that the automobile manufacturer was asked to pay damages for having cars....which is incorrect.

the manufacturer was not asked to pay damages for cars but for some action/violation (doing test driving on cars with their odometers disconnected)

(D) having test-driven cars with their odometers disconnected
(E) having cars that were test-driven with disconnected odometers
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2010, 07:51
The charges were for something (for having cars). If you say for cars, it doesn't relate that he has done something.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2010, 10:18
cars that it had test-driven with their disconnected odometers. In this sentence we don't know if their refer to cars or manufacturers. Therefore, B should be eliminated.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 16 Oct 2010, 06:51
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The charges were for something (for having cars). If you say for cars, it doesn't relate that he has done something.


But A does not say for cars...it says "for cars that were..." , so there is an action for which the charges were applied.

Could anybody explain a bit more whats wrong with A?
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 16 Oct 2010, 07:56
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seekmba wrote:
E is wrong because it conveys that the automobile manufacturer was asked to pay damages for having cars....which is incorrect.

the manufacturer was not asked to pay damages for cars but for some action/violation (doing test driving on cars with their odometers disconnected)

(D) having test-driven cars with their odometers disconnected
(E) having cars that were test-driven with disconnected odometers



why is B wrong!!

Another reason why B is wrong is because of meaning error.
You don't say "disconnected odometers" rather "odometers disconnected". There is a subtle but a clear difference between the two and to preserve the intended meaning of the author, we reject B. For the same reason, we reject E.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 14 Nov 2010, 10:10
Nobody is going to clarify this?
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aiming4mba wrote:
The charges were for something (for having cars). If you say for cars, it doesn't relate that he has done something.


But A does not say for cars...it says "for cars that were..." , so there is an action for which the charges were applied.

Could anybody explain a bit more whats wrong with A?
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 14 Nov 2010, 21:25
noboru - http://www.beatthegmat.com/automobile-m ... ent=Boston

The best I can help. I went for A too..now looking around why it is wrong.
Now reading the sentence over and over again makes me feel that A changes the meaning of the sentence.

One guy has very well said, prep+noun+participle if a BIG NO in GMAT (We all know that by now), this is in A.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2010, 12:13
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noboru - http://www.beatthegmat.com/automobile-m ... ent=Boston

The best I can help. I went for A too..now looking around why it is wrong.
Now reading the sentence over and over again makes me feel that A changes the meaning of the sentence.

One guy has very well said, prep+noun+participle if a BIG NO in GMAT (We all know that by now), this is in A.


Thanks, but that doesnt solve my doubt.

Both A and D have "with their odometers disconnected", so why do you say that it is only wrong in A? and BTW, that would be "prep pron noun part", which is different from what you are stating.

The suposed explanation for choosing D rather than A is that you need an action for which the manufacter had to pay damages, and D says "for having cars bla bla bla" and that is an action. In A it says "for cars..." and that is not an action. However, my point is that A says "for cars that were bla bla bla" and that is also an action for which the manufacturer could have had to pay.

Can anybody clarify?
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 15 Nov 2010, 15:42
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noboru - http://www.beatthegmat.com/automobile-m ... ent=Boston

The best I can help. I went for A too..now looking around why it is wrong.
Now reading the sentence over and over again makes me feel that A changes the meaning of the sentence.

One guy has very well said, prep+noun+participle if a BIG NO in GMAT (We all know that by now), this is in A.


Thanks, but that doesnt solve my doubt.

Both A and D have "with their odometers disconnected", so why do you say that it is only wrong in A? and BTW, that would be "prep pron noun part", which is different from what you are stating.

The suposed explanation for choosing D rather than A is that you need an action for which the manufacter had to pay damages, and D says "for having cars bla bla bla" and that is an action. In A it says "for cars..." and that is not an action. However, my point is that A says "for cars that were bla bla bla" and that is also an action for which the manufacturer could have had to pay.

Can anybody clarify?
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noboru, I originally went for option A as well, but thinking about it a little more changed my thought. Option A is actually says "pay fines for cars with their..." whereas option D says "pay fines for having cars with their..."

Option A is ambiguous because it could seem like the manufacturer is paying a fine for civil damage for any car that was test driven with ....

I hope I'm clear
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 16 Nov 2010, 03:02
noboru wrote:
amma4u wrote:
noboru - http://www.beatthegmat.com/automobile-m ... ent=Boston

The best I can help. I went for A too..now looking around why it is wrong.
Now reading the sentence over and over again makes me feel that A changes the meaning of the sentence.

One guy has very well said, prep+noun+participle if a BIG NO in GMAT (We all know that by now), this is in A.


Thanks, but that doesnt solve my doubt.

Both A and D have "with their odometers disconnected", so why do you say that it is only wrong in A? and BTW, that would be "prep pron noun part", which is different from what you are stating.

The suposed explanation for choosing D rather than A is that you need an action for which the manufacter had to pay damages, and D says "for having cars bla bla bla" and that is an action. In A it says "for cars..." and that is not an action. However, my point is that A says "for cars that were bla bla bla" and that is also an action for which the manufacturer could have had to pay.

Can anybody clarify?
Thanks.


You're right. You do need an action for which the manufacturer had to pay. So the answer is D.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 16 Nov 2010, 03:07
*The manufacturer was made to pay not for the cars but for driving the cars in an illegal manner.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 17 Nov 2010, 12:50
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*The manufacturer was made to pay not for the cars but for driving the cars in an illegal manner.



Of course the manufacturer was not made to pay for the cars, but for cars that were bla bla bla

I think that the point here is not that but that A can be interpreted as if those cars could be of OTHER MANUFACTURER!

Thoughts on that?
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 17 Nov 2010, 19:47
noboru wrote:
Werewolf wrote:
*The manufacturer was made to pay not for the cars but for driving the cars in an illegal manner.



Of course the manufacturer was not made to pay for the cars, but for cars that were bla bla bla

I think that the point here is not that but that A can be interpreted as if those cars could be of OTHER MANUFACTURER!

Thoughts on that?


I'm lousy at explaining things but my point was that the manufacturer was being punished for performing the action of driving those cars in an illegal manner. A implies that the manufacturer was punished for some specific cars (cars that were test-driven with their odometers disconnected) and not for other cars.

I don't think ownership of the car is an issue here. Every answer choice fails to explicitly mention the owners of the cars except an obviously wrong choice C (its cars).
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2010, 13:09
I went with E. I think D changes the meaning of the actual sentence.
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Re: SC-Odometers [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2011, 02:14
D because it refers to what teh damages were paid for...correctly
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Re: In December of 1987 an automobile manufacturer pleaded no [#permalink] New post 28 Dec 2011, 01:04
any forum moderator ...pls clarify the doubt ....what is wrong with a) ...???
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