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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2007, 17:30
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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2007, 18:20
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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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The idioms in question are older...than, and more (ancient)...than. Knowing that, it's easy to eliminate A, E and D right off the bat. Looking at B and C, we see that C has an awkward and incorrect construction. "older than" what? We need a noun right there, right after the idiom, and instead we have a verb. C is out. B it is - the civilization is "more ancient than the city...". Bingo. It's the proper idiom, followed by a noun.
As a side bar, for non-native English speakers, please note that the word ancient is simply a synonym for old. It may imply really, REALLY old, but it's still just a synonym. In other words, it's not like the word "unique", meaning one of a kind. You're either one of a kind, or not; you're either unique, or you're not. While you may hear the word "unique" qualified on the news - "she is more unique...the most unique" etc, please know that in general and SPECIFICALLY for the GMAT, you can't qualify it.

My point here is that the word ancient CAN be qualified. You CAN say "more ancient than...the most ancient.." etc. So really this question was just testing your knowledge of the proper idiom construction.
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2007, 20:16
Amardeep Sharma wrote:
In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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My choice is C for the simple reason of correct idiom "older than" .. I guess there is no need to choose between ancient or older here because only B might be correct in that idiomatic choice but B is wordy because of 'more' which is redundant here.. "A is 1000 yrs older than B" and not
"A is 1000 yrs more older than B"

Hence C ..
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2007, 21:48
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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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I pick C.

The original sentence wants to say '...uncovered a civilization that was a thousand years older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes.' --> since the city known to Homer's heroes existed in the past.

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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2007, 22:22
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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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Answer is B. Although im not really sure why C is incorrect.
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2007, 06:23
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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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Between 'B' and 'D'

Will go for 'B' - though civilisation is compared with a city..
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In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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Answer is B. Although im not really sure why C is incorrect.

Blackbelt - take a look at my post. C is incorrect because you need a noun to follow the idom. "older than" or "more ancient than" what? The noun MUST follow immediately - you can't have a verb right after the idiom. That's why C is wrong. Lemme know if that's not clear, and I'll try to find a better way of explaining it.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2007, 12:17
Ill go with B, I don't think there is a difference between older, and more ancient, besides the fact that older is more concise. But I still like B.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2007, 13:27
i see B as the best choice. Either way, the idiom should be:

1) X older than Y or
2) X more ancient than Y


in option C, it says " X more ancient than was." is "was" suppose to be our Y here? i don't think so....this option is comparing "civilization" to "was", wrong comparison.
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2007, 15:28
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Amardeep Sharma wrote:
In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy and uncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew
(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes
(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew
(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes

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Answer is B. Although im not really sure why C is incorrect.

Blackbelt - take a look at my post. C is incorrect because you need a noun to follow the idom. "older than" or "more ancient than" what? The noun MUST follow immediately - you can't have a verb right after the idiom. That's why C is wrong. Lemme know if that's not clear, and I'll try to find a better way of explaining it.


Thanks Uphillclimb, nice explanation, earlier I was also confused between B and C, and I chose C, but after reading your comments, where you mentioned idiom should follow noun and not verb in this case, I dont have any doubt.

OA is B and the source is bruttal 70 questions.

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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2009, 00:27
C is wrong since it does the wrong comparison of the noun and verb....This error is removed in B wherein we are comparing two nouns....So B is the correct answer...
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Re: [#permalink] New post 14 Jun 2009, 03:43
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i see B as the best choice. Either way, the idiom should be:

1) X older than Y or
2) X more ancient than Y


in option C, it says " X more ancient than was." is "was" suppose to be our Y here? i don't think so....this option is comparing "civilization" to "was", wrong comparison.


First I choosed D , yet when I read again I realized how I choosed the wrong answer . Thanks to tarek .


(A) older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew - X older than Y a civilization a thousand years older as OUT-

(B) more ancient than the city known to Homer’s heroes -X more ancient than Y a civilization a thousand years more ancient than the city a civilization compared to a city Right-

(C) older than was the city known to Homer’s heroes - X older than Y a civilization a thousand years older than was a noun is needed here since X is a civilization a noun Y must be noun instead of was OUT-
(D) more ancient of a city than Homer’s heroes knew - X more ancient than Y a civilization a thousand years more ancient of a city than Homer’s I think we need a noun here since X is a civilization .-

(E) older of a city than was the one known to Homer’s heroes-X older than Y older of a city than was we need nount after than of a city makes the sentence blurry-
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2009, 14:15
I reckon if you dont read what uphillclimb had to say; one is still juggling between older and ancient in comparison to older than ... and ... more ancient than... threw me off for sure

Thanks uphillclimb for breaking it down well.
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 25 Aug 2010, 00:49
Can someone tell me why in B (the OA)

The comparison between: CIVILIZATION and CITY is ok here???
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 27 Aug 2010, 03:03
As someone pointed out, Older than should be followed by a noun ( Older than X is the idiom here). C does not have that and B fits the bill better!
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Re: older Vs ancient [#permalink] New post 17 Oct 2010, 03:41
could anybody explain why older than must be followed by a noun?
I have seen many other comparisons in which after the than there is a verb.

i would appreciate if anybody could clarify.
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Re: In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2012, 02:46
Going by this, is the below sentence correct?

Ram is 200 years more ancient than Peter?
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Re: In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German [#permalink] New post 28 Aug 2012, 05:03
In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German archaeologist Schliemann cut through Troy anduncovered a civilization a thousand years older as was the city Homer’s heroes knew.

Thus : Schliemann uncovered a civilisation ....................( now something about the civilisation )

the fight is bxn B & C

B : ..............A civilisation ....................... MORE ANCIENT THAN the city ..............known to X

C : ..............A civilisation.........................OLDER THAN was the city ....................known to X

Do we really need that extra WAS in C = thus eliminated

Leading to B = my take
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Re: In his eagerness to find a city worthy of Priam, the German [#permalink] New post 30 Dec 2012, 08:54
A – X older as Y is wrong usage. Eliminate
B – Correct comparison. City known to Homer’s heroes Vs a civilization. Keep
C – X older than Y. Eliminate
D – Wrong comparison.Homer’s heroes Vs civilization. Eliminate
E – “older of a city” – wrong usage. Eliminate
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