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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 05:52
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

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IMO E

IMO the choice is between D and E
i understand that this is a case of elipsis but could someone elaborate on the principal and why in this case is the correct one?
my understanding is that the two elements need to be parallel, so the verb is needed "will do"

also, D's structure "as will halley's comet" is awkard with the end of sentence "the next...."
any1 that can explain more?
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 07:16
First: the 2/3-split wins "as" since we have "the same...as"

Second: it's a comparison of the comets' passing in a certain distance and position, not the comets themselves ; therefore, "C" out

Third: I'm not sure whether it's a matter of concision or "E" is in fact wrong.

Anyway, I opted for D :)
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 07:44
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

There is a 3-2 split for "That" and "As", That will refer to position, while sentence is referring to distance and position. Hence, Option A and B are wrong...

Option C is awkward, hence incorrect

To choose between D and E, I am bit confused. I felt the correct answer to be E, still not able to figure out why E is incorrect.

i am in the same condition, confused between d & e. :?
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 08:34
D, in my opinion.
First, for the comparison you need the structure "at the same distance as..."---"the same distance that..." isn't grammatically correct. Eliminate a and b.
Second, the comet will pass in the future, so "will" is necessary to indicate this. Eliminate C.
Third, I believe that in e, "as Haley's comet will do", the "do" is wrong because it changes the verb from "pass" to "do". So I go with d because it satisfies all of these considerations, imo.
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 03 Sep 2010, 11:29
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D for me .
I think this is a case of Ellipsis.

Hi can someone explain the concept of ellipsis?
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2010, 00:37
Dear fellow aspirants although I messed up my gmat in my last atempts, I am trying to bell it this time.Here's my take on halley's comet.

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

here we use as because we are comparing passing of comets.
Between Dand E I don't know why is D correct I opted for E because both comets are parallel to each other.after the coma and both passed and will are also parallel.

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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2010, 05:06
A &B are out because "that" is preceded by a comma. The comma denotes a non-essential clause--"that is used for essential clauses, thus is never preceded by a comma.

D describes future tense because Haley has not passed and is yet to happen…Correct.

C and E are normal writing errors
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2010, 08:16
Do we know the source of the question?
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2010, 21:50
'that' can not be ther in answers..
so most suitable ans after eliminating these options..is D
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 05 Sep 2010, 22:05
went for A :(
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2010, 00:16
I think it's D

A,B eliminated as 'as' required for correct comparison.
In regads of meaning.. C is eliminated
E is wordy for redundant 'Do'
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2010, 01:43
mymba99 wrote:
In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

plz expln rule/concept if possible. :-D Thanks

core sentence:
Crommelin passed at the same..bla...bla..... as halley's comet will pass
------ Noun---- verb ----------------------------- noun- -------verb
since we are comparing two thing, we need "as". so A, B are out.
C-doesn't have a verb to go with Haley's Comet
between D and E , D is more concise. The verb "will" coming before the noun"haley's comet" is widely acceptable in GMAT
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2010, 01:55
Clearly the choice is between E&D.
The concept tested is of ellipses.
In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass - that can never replace a part of sentence.
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing- that can never replace a part of sentence.
(C) as Halley’s comet - action of Crommelin compared with another commet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do
Now to D/E
In E do is in present tens while in the main sentence "In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth" - "passed" is in pass tens. Therefore this ellipses is wrong.
D avoids this contradiction hence is the better option.
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2010, 10:10
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

plz expln rule/concept if possible. :-D Thanks


Idiom: same ___ AS is correct, same __distance__ THAT is wrong
Knocks out A and B
Need to have a future tense verb due to "next time" later in sentence
Knocks out C
D looks good
Halley's comet will PASS, not DO
Knocks out E

D looks to be our winner.
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 04:01
i choose E but its wrong.
can some1 tell, how to tackle this kind of Ellipsis problem. how to identify them.
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 05:07
it was D straight away.
it has to start with 'as' that elimintaes A and B.
out C, D, E
C- as Halley’s comet, same is not referring to the position of the Crommelin comet here but to the 'Crommelin comet as passed' thus there has to be a verb with Halley's comet.

D- CORRECT, clear and concise

E- unnecessary use of do.
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 05:23
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

There is a 3-2 split for "That" and "As", That will refer to position, while sentence is referring to distance and position. Hence, Option A and B are wrong...

Option C is awkward, hence incorrect


To choose between D and E, I am bit confused. I felt the correct answer to be E, still not able to figure out why E is incorrect.


Hi,
can you explain the concept of you have used here"There is a 3-2 split for "That" and "As", That will refer to position, while sentence is referring to distance and position. Hence, Option A and B are wrong..."
Y u said A and B were worng?
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 11:25
Eliminated A,B and C options, but between D and E, i chose E :(
Still not clear why D is better than E
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In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 13:04
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Re: SC - Hally's comet [#permalink] New post 08 Sep 2011, 16:41
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Dear fellow aspirants although I messed up my gmat in my last atempts, I am trying to bell it this time.Here's my take on halley's comet.

In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will passthe next time it appears.

(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

here we use as because we are comparing passing of comets.
Between Dand E I don't know why is D correct I opted for E because both comets are parallel to each other.after the coma and both passed and will are also parallel.

Kindly help me out wih this one.




We can rule out A and B bcoz thr is a " , " before that.


(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet - awkward
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do incorrect bcoz appears signifies the position of comet is getting compared.(correct me if i m wrong)
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