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In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje,

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In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2006, 06:22
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390. In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
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 [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2006, 06:28
D.

E is wrong due to tense.

BC are wrong due to whom.

A is wrong due to have had. "over the ensuing years" means it continues after their claim, but "have had" means it occurred before the girls' claim.
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 [#permalink] New post 28 Nov 2006, 10:53
Avoid present perfect (have had) for parallelism. So, A, C, E are out.

B or D is the answer. ‘who vs whom’?

Who is used as a subject while ‘whom’ as an object.

D is my answer.
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 [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2006, 21:48
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D.

E is wrong due to tense.

BC are wrong due to whom.

A is wrong due to have had. "over the ensuing years" means it continues after their claim, but "have had" means it occurred before the girls' claim.


But the official answer is A...........I fail to undertand why?
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D.

E is wrong due to tense.

BC are wrong due to whom.

A is wrong due to have had. "over the ensuing years" means it continues after their claim, but "have had" means it occurred before the girls' claim.


But the official answer is A...........I fail to undertand why?

usage of have had is right.
To show continuation, the sentence would have to be something like: Since 1981, they have been having visions of Mary.

To make it simpler, replace have visions with seen.
In 1981, teenagers claimed to have seen Mary.
which means, they claimed to have had visions of Mary.
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Re: SC on Virgin Mary!!! [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2011, 18:32
I'm sorry to re-open this post after so long.

But I'm confused between options A & D.

(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who

Is D incorrect because it uses 'have' visions which changes the meaning of the sentence?
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This is a terrible topic. The non-underlined part says that in June 1981, some people claimed to have visions of Virgin Mary ……, who then has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years. If Mary were to appear in later years, how would they say it in an earlier time of June 1981? This like a child’s play who often mixes up tenses as saying I saw tomorrow. In addition, the second part containing the subordinate clause unnecessarily shifts to simple present and present perfect from the past tense of the main clause.


The point the topic wants to prove perhaps is the use of who or whom and the use of past perfect. Since the visions must have occurred earlier than their claim, obviously we are required to use “to have had” along with a simple past, which is sufficient to indicate prioress. ‘Had clamed’ is very wrong.

On the use of ‘who or whom’, we can see that the later part of the sentence has verb ‘has continued “which needs to have a subject or a subject pronoun pronoun such as who rather than an object pronoun ‘whom’.

On the difference between 'to have had and to have': when you claim 'to have visions', it means here that you are having visions just then as you make that claim. On the contrary, when you claim 'to have had visions', it indicates that you had the visions before you have come forward to make the claim, which is the correct context.

As such, not withstanding the terrible handling of the tenses in the non-underlined parts, structurally A will be the correct one .
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Re: SC on Virgin Mary!!! [#permalink] New post 01 Sep 2011, 20:49
Sentence must me using who so options Left A & D,
have had visions seems to more accurate than D

So go with A
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Re: In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, [#permalink] New post 13 Nov 2013, 05:05
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Re: In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, [#permalink] New post 13 Nov 2013, 13:51
jyotsnasarabu wrote:
390. In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom


Norrowed down to A and D but choose D...

Need to understand context here: "the child had visions and they then claims to have those visions" => therefore: " claimed to have had visions"

Answer A indeed!
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