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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2008, 14:41
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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 19 Nov 2012, 18:40
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From IDIOM list offered in SC aristotle book:

"Restrictions Of " is not idiomatic and it should be "restrictions on".

so all ACs has diomatic error?
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 26 Oct 2013, 21:20
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This question was discussed in another forum. The OA is E. Can a moderator update the OA?
http://www.beatthegmat.com/with-without-nor-or-hope-experts-can-explain-t70733.html

My take on this is that the underlined portion is a part of a prepositional phrase/clause modifying the vacationers enjoyment of nature. If a clause has a list, that list must be parallel. Answer E is the only option that maintains a parallel structure with "without the X and Y or the Z"
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Re: SC: GMAT Set 29 - 18 [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2008, 14:47
E for me


rest all use "nor" and "with" wrongly


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Re: SC: GMAT Set 29 - 18 [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2008, 14:51
IMO E

In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.

A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the - "with" is awkward
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor - "with" is awkward
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor - "nor" did not fit here
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the - "with the" missing the ||ism
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the - correct
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Re: SC: GMAT Set 29 - 18 [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2008, 15:03
I am told sets are past retired papers. You can search them in esnips.com.
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E for me


rest all use "nor" and "with" wrongly


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Re: SC: GMAT Set 29 - 18 [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2008, 22:19
E. It clearly brings out the logical meaning and corrects structure of sentence.
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 20 Nov 2012, 04:37
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In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the



I went with D...
Without X or with Y

For I felt both are not parllel...
without X or Y (this changes intended meaning)
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 01 Feb 2013, 06:45
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seofah wrote:
In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the



I went with D...
Without X or with Y

For I felt both are not parllel...
without X or Y (this changes intended meaning)

or with changes the meaning (there is a restriction of formalities and expenses)

IMO E
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 30 Mar 2013, 08:19
or is a parallelism opearator... so with is mandatory after or since the first clause starts with with..... D in my opinion.....
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers [#permalink] New post 07 Oct 2013, 13:21
seofah wrote:
In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers found that driving
automobiles and sleeping in tents allowed them to enjoy nature close at hand and tour at
their own pace, with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or
with the
formalities, expenses, and impersonality of hotels.
A. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
B. with none of the restrictions of passenger trains, railroad timetables, nor
C. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables nor
D. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or with the
E. without the restrictions of passenger trains and railroad timetables or the


'Allowed them to enjoy nature' WITHOUT the restrictions should be used here. Hence, A and B are out
Now between C,D, and E, without nor is clearly incorrect as it is a double negative. So C is out
Now between D and E, do we need the with before? Without the restrictions or the formalities sound good to me!
Therefore IMO, correct answer should be (E).

OA please to corroborate.
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Re: In the early part of the twentieth century, many vacationers   [#permalink] 07 Oct 2013, 13:21
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