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For D, even if we account for the pesticide we would probably need to account for the mites as well to be definitive.

But I think it comes down to the condition of the argument, that we should accept the decline as given.
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In the past 50 years, the population of honeybees in the United States has been cut in half. The decline is due primarily to the increasing use of pesticides in the United States, as well as to the introduction of two types of mites that weaken and kill the bees. Honeybees are the primary pollinators for a variety of important fruit crops, including oranges, apples, grapes, peaches, cranberries and watermelons. Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers.

In evaluating the conclusion, which of the following questions would be LEAST useful to answer?

A Are there other insect pollinators that could pollinate these fruit crops instead of the honeybee?
B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
C Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees?
D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations?
E Is it possible to genetically engineer fruit-producing plants so that they no longer require pollination?

Responding to 3 pms on this question!

I couldn't recall the honeybee question offhand but was convinced that it must be tricky if people are this unsettled because of it. But mind you, in my opinion, the question is straightforward. All you need to do is focus on what the question is asking you. Do not let emotions interfere!

In all our strengthen/weaken questions we tell you to look at the conclusion. Try to strengthen/weaken that. Here the question clearly asks you to figure out what will not help in evaluating the CONCLUSION.

What is the conclusion?

"If the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers."

The conclusion is that if the honey bee population continues to decline, then consumers will not get fruit. What you have to evaluate is this "If the honeybee population continues to decline, will the consumers get fruit?". Basically, we are wondering whether there are alternative ways of pollination or getting fruit.

A Are there other insect pollinators that could pollinate these fruit crops instead of the honeybee?
Alternative method of pollination

B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
Alternative method of obtaining fruit

C Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees?
Alternative method of pollination

D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations?
Doesn't help in evaluating the conclusion. The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available. We don't have to question whether there are ways to reverse the decline. The point is - if the decline happens, can we do something.

E Is it possible to genetically engineer fruit-producing plants so that they no longer require pollination?
Alternative method of obtaining fruit

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Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers. In evaluating the conclusion, which of the following questions would be LEAST useful to answer? A Are there other insect pollinators that could pollinate these fruit crops instead of the honeybee? B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? C Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees? D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations? E Is it possible to genetically engineer fruit-producing plants so that they no longer require pollination? Responding to 3 pms on this question! I couldn't recall the honeybee question offhand but was convinced that it must be tricky if people are this unsettled because of it. But mind you, in my opinion, the question is straightforward. All you need to do is focus on what the question is asking you. Do not let emotions interfere! In all our strengthen/weaken questions we tell you to look at the conclusion. Try to strengthen/weaken that. Here the question clearly asks you to figure out what will not help in evaluating the CONCLUSION. What is the conclusion? "If the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers." The conclusion is that if the honey bee population continues to decline, then consumers will not get fruit. What you have to evaluate is this "If the honeybee population continues to decline, will the consumers get fruit?". Basically, we are wondering whether there are alternative ways of pollination or getting fruit. A Are there other insect pollinators that could pollinate these fruit crops instead of the honeybee? Alternative method of pollination B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? Alternative method of obtaining fruit C Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees? Alternative method of pollination D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations? Doesn't help in evaluating the conclusion. The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available. We don't have to question whether there are ways to reverse the decline. The point is - if the decline happens, can we do something. E Is it possible to genetically engineer fruit-producing plants so that they no longer require pollination? Alternative method of obtaining fruit Answer (D) Not satisfactory. How does A give you an alternative for polliation? if bee population is declining due to pesticide, can we turn a blind eye to the fact that pesticides would eliminate insects too? And assume that we got one way of pollination? Also the statement: D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations? Doesn't help in evaluating the conclusion. The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available. We don't have to question whether there are ways to reverse the decline. The point is - if the decline happens, can we do something. "The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available". yes it does. And that is what we have to evaluate. We dont have to question if there are ways to reverse the decline. But 'consider'- if there is a method that can 'reverse' (note:reverse, Not STOP) the decline, would it impact the conclusion? _________________ Lets Kudos!!! 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A Are there other insect pollinators that could pollinate these fruit crops instead of the honeybee? B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? C Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees? D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations? E Is it possible to genetically engineer fruit-producing plants so that they no longer require pollination? What is the conclusion? "If the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers." The conclusion is that if the honey bee population continues to decline, then consumers will not get fruit. What you have to evaluate is this "If the honeybee population continues to decline, will the consumers get fruit?". Basically, we are wondering whether there are alternative ways of pollination or getting fruit. D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations? Doesn't help in evaluating the conclusion. The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available. We don't have to question whether there are ways to reverse the decline. The point is - if the decline happens, can we do something. Answer (D) Hi karishma..thanks for the reply but still I am not convinced over the explanation of D. Can you please elaborate more? I still feel that D can be answered in as weakener and strengthener. _________________ AGSM Thread Master Joined: 19 Jul 2012 Posts: 168 Location: India Concentration: Marketing, International Business GMAT 1: 630 Q49 V28 GPA: 3.3 Followers: 6 Kudos [?]: 188 [0], given: 31 Re: In the past 50 years, the population of honeybees in the [#permalink] ### Show Tags 15 Nov 2012, 00:24 The correct answer is D. D will do the least to evaluate the conclusion. The catch lies in the conclusion. Lets rephrase the conclusion. Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers. It is a prediction based on the condition. We have to evaluate the prediction in the light of this condition only. Thus, the objective is to evaluate whether fruits will be available if the honey bee population declines. We are already told that the Population of honey bee is important for the pollination of fruits so reversing the condition will not help in evaluating the prediction. The reversal of the population is out of scope as we need to check whether the fruits can be made available if the honey bee population keeps declining. Veritas Prep GMAT Instructor Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 6829 Location: Pune, India Followers: 1918 Kudos [?]: 11926 [3] , given: 221 Re: In the past 50 years, the population of honeybees in the [#permalink] ### Show Tags 15 Nov 2012, 01:28 3 This post received KUDOS Expert's post Vips0000 wrote: How does A give you an alternative for polliation? if bee population is declining due to pesticide, can we turn a blind eye to the fact that pesticides would eliminate insects too? And assume that we got one way of pollination? We do not know whether the insects get affected. It's an 'evaluate' question. You first evaluate whether someone else can pollinate. Once you find someone, then you will evaluate the status of those insects and what affects them etc. You are jumping the gun by saying that the same pesticides will affect every species of insects and hence no other possible pollinator can survive. Vips0000 wrote: Also the statement: D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations? Doesn't help in evaluating the conclusion. The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available. We don't have to question whether there are ways to reverse the decline. The point is - if the decline happens, can we do something. "The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available". yes it does. And that is what we have to evaluate. We dont have to question if there are ways to reverse the decline. But 'consider'- if there is a method that can 'reverse' (note:reverse, Not STOP) the decline, would it impact the conclusion? Here you haven't understood the conclusion. Say, I give you my opinion "If people keep fighting, the world will end." You need to evaluate my opinion. What will you evaluate? Will you evaluate whether people will keep fighting or will you evaluate what happens when people keep fighting. In my opinion, if people keep fighting, the world will end. You need to find out what happens 'if people keep fighting'. My opinion is based on a condition. If this happens, that will happen. When you evaluate my opinion, you are going to evaluate whether 'that will happen or not if this happens'. You don't have to question whether people will keep fighting or not. Similarly, the conclusion states 'if honeybee population continues to decline...' Don't worry about whether actually honeybee population will decline, stay same or increase. Find out what happens if it continues to decline. _________________ Karishma Veritas Prep | GMAT Instructor My Blog Get started with Veritas Prep GMAT On Demand for$199

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How does A give you an alternative for polliation? if bee population is declining due to pesticide, can we turn a blind eye to the fact that pesticides would eliminate insects too? And assume that we got one way of pollination?

We do not know whether the insects get affected. It's an 'evaluate' question. You first evaluate whether someone else can pollinate. Once you find someone, then you will evaluate the status of those insects and what affects them etc. You are jumping the gun by saying that the same pesticides will affect every species of insects and hence no other possible pollinator can survive.

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Also the statement:
D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations?
Doesn't help in evaluating the conclusion. The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available. We don't have to question whether there are ways to reverse the decline. The point is - if the decline happens, can we do something.

"The conclusion clearly says that if the decline continues, fruits will not be available". yes it does. And that is what we have to evaluate.

We dont have to question if there are ways to reverse the decline. But 'consider'- if there is a method that can 'reverse' (note:reverse, Not STOP) the decline, would it impact the conclusion?

Here you haven't understood the conclusion. Say, I give you my opinion "If people keep fighting, the world will end." You need to evaluate my opinion. What will you evaluate? Will you evaluate whether people will keep fighting or will you evaluate what happens when people keep fighting. In my opinion, if people keep fighting, the world will end. You need to find out what happens 'if people keep fighting'. My opinion is based on a condition. If this happens, that will happen. When you evaluate my opinion, you are going to evaluate whether 'that will happen or not if this happens'. You don't have to question whether people will keep fighting or not.
Similarly, the conclusion states 'if honeybee population continues to decline...'
Don't worry about whether actually honeybee population will decline, stay same or increase. Find out what happens if it continues to decline.

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hey where is my kudos

I said exactly what karishma said, but with fewer words

Thanks Karishma
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This was a good question Thanks for the explanation karishma.
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For D, even if we account for the pesticide we would probably need to account for the mites as well to be definitive.

But I think it comes down to the condition of the argument, that we should accept the decline as given.

I have to agree with the first statement here. Even if pesticide is reduced, you still need to make an additional assumption that the mites don't kill the honeybees as well. D is not a question that can give a direct resolution to the availability of the fruit.
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26 Nov 2012, 00:22
Dont agree with the OA, OA should be B

B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? -- We are talking about a trend in United states and this seems to be the least important.

D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations.
The answer to this questions definetely matters.
Yes : Rev the decline - > Pollination inc -> O/p increase
N0 : The same trend - > Reduced pollination -> Reduced O/p

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B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
we will get fruits from other counties, who cares abt the bees!

If we were to ignore this honeybee decline altogether there is no point writing this argument at all. Just import fruits from other countries.

The conclusion cares about honey bees.
Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers.
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Dont agree with the OA, OA should be B

B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? -- We are talking about a trend in United states and this seems to be the least important.

D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations.
The answer to this questions definetely matters.
Yes : Rev the decline - > Pollination inc -> O/p increase
N0 : The same trend - > Reduced pollination -> Reduced O/p

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B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
we will get fruits from other counties, who cares abt the bees!

If we were to ignore this honeybee decline altogether there is no point writing this argument at all. Just import fruits from other countries.

The conclusion cares about honey bees.
Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers.

If you notice a pattern with the other answer choices (A, C, E), along with B, they all provide an alternative solution that directly addresses that most fruits won't be available to consumers. If you answer Yes to these 4 options, you can solve the problem and more fruits will be available to consumers. However, even if you answer Yes to B, you still have another question (what about the 2 new types of mites).

Also, even if you reduce the use of pesticide, you cannot assume that the population will drastically increase right away, or double to the totals prior to the 50 years. You're still stuck with a limited fruit supply.
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I initially went with A. Seeing Karisma's explanation it is clear. Kudos!
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Dont agree with the OA, OA should be B

B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? -- We are talking about a trend in United states and this seems to be the least important.

D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations.
The answer to this questions definetely matters.
Yes : Rev the decline - > Pollination inc -> O/p increase
N0 : The same trend - > Reduced pollination -> Reduced O/p

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B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
we will get fruits from other counties, who cares abt the bees!

If we were to ignore this honeybee decline altogether there is no point writing this argument at all. Just import fruits from other countries.

The conclusion cares about honey bees.
Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers.

Check out the explanation given in this post: http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2012/11 ... onclusion/
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As a note apart, D is already stated in the passage as a fact.
The fact is that the increasing use of pesticides is causing a decline in the honeybee population.

Therefore answer choice D does not add new information to the argument and hence is the correct answer choice

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In the past 50 years, the population of honeybees in the United States has been cut in half. The decline is due primarily to the increasing use of pesticides in the United States, as well as to the introduction of two types of mites that weaken and kill the bees. Honeybees are the primary pollinators for a variety of important fruit crops, including oranges, apples, grapes, peaches, cranberries and watermelons. Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers.

In evaluating the conclusion, which of the following questions would be LEAST useful to answer?

A Are there other insect pollinators that could pollinate these fruit crops instead of the honeybee?
B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
C Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees?
D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations?
E Is it possible to genetically engineer fruit-producing plants so that they no longer require pollination?

As always, the principal task is to identify the conclusion..whether an option seems more relevant to the topic in hand or in the same way some options seem to be less relevant/important to the topic is not a criteria to negate an option...

After we relate how each option is helping just the conclusion at hand..it is an easy task to narrow down to the answer
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
HiteshPunjabi wrote:
Dont agree with the OA, OA should be B

B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand? -- We are talking about a trend in United states and this seems to be the least important.

D Will reducing the use of pesticides in the United States reverse the decline in honeybee populations.
The answer to this questions definetely matters.
Yes : Rev the decline - > Pollination inc -> O/p increase
N0 : The same trend - > Reduced pollination -> Reduced O/p

Quote:
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B Are honeybee populations declining in other important fruit-producing regions, like Chile and New Zealand?
we will get fruits from other counties, who cares abt the bees!

If we were to ignore this honeybee decline altogether there is no point writing this argument at all. Just import fruits from other countries.

The conclusion cares about honey bees.
Therefore, if the honey bee population continues this drastic decline, then most fruits will no longer be available to consumers.

Check out the explanation given in this post: http://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2012/11 ... onclusion/

Hi Karishma,

Lucky i got this answer right. But i have a very fundamental question. I was stuck between C and D. Reason being that C states 'Is it feasible for humans to hand-pollinate the fruits that have been pollinated by bees' and i just couldn't understand how would pollinating a fruit that has been pollinated by bees help? as in, isn't it already pollinated?

Sorry for such a basic question but i was very close to picking C over D for this reason.
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you are not parsing the option C correctly

C is trying to look out for a possibility where in the plants that are presently being pollinated by honeybees CAN be pollinated by humans ?
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