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In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle other stars.

(A) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle
(B) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter and circling
(C) most of them at least as large as Jupiter, circling
(D) mostly at least as large as Jupiter, which circle
(E) mostly as large or larger than Jupiter, circling



My question is - why is c correct and D wrong?
The problem i see in c is that the antecedent of "them" is ambiguous. "them" in c can refer to planets or astronomers (isn't it so?)

In D - mostly is an adverb which modifies the adjective (large).
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2008, 10:58
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In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle other stars.

(A) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle
(B) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter and circling
(C) most of them at least as large as Jupiter, circling
(D) mostly at least as large as Jupiter, which circle
(E) mostly as large or larger than Jupiter, circling

My question is - why is c correct and D wrong?
The problem i see in c is that the antecedent of "them" is ambiguous. "them" in c can refer to planets or astronomers (isn't it so?)

In D - mostly is an adverb which modifies the adjective (large).


D has 2 flaws:

1. most of them is better than mostly
2. incorrect modifying phrase that starts with "which" incorrectly refers to Jupitor.

both flaws are corrected in C.
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2008, 22:45
Guys, thanks for the replies. However, i would really appreciate explanations with the answers. I have already mentioned the answer with the question. I need answer to the question i have put up specifically.
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2008, 23:15
namurad wrote:
Guys, thanks for the replies. However, i would really appreciate explanations with the answers. I have already mentioned the answer with the question. I need answer to the question i have put up specifically.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your question is:

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My question is - why is c correct and D wrong?
The problem i see in c is that the antecedent of "them" is ambiguous. "them" in c can refer to planets or astronomers (isn't it so?)

In D - mostly is an adverb which modifies the adjective (large).


Namurad,

The first part of your question: why C is correct?, and the reason attached!

"most of them..." modifies "more than 80 massive planets", NOT "astronomers". So "them" cannot refer to "astronomers"

Second part of your question: why D is wrong? actually as you think, it must have been correct because, as your reasoning, "mostly" modifies correctly "large"

Namurad,
If "Mostly", ofcouse in my opinion, want to modify "adj-large", it should be close to "large". For example: "at least as mostly large as..."- that is my rephrase only.

One more thing, "mostly..." should modify " the main verb "detected". That is why it make the sentence sound akawd. Right?

Let be advised with some replies above together!
Just my 2 cent!
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2008, 17:09
yep, C,

D is flawed by using "mostly" and "which circles". Jupiter does not circle multiple stars, rather other stars circle other stars. :)
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2008, 17:30
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In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle other stars.

(A) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle
(B) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter and circling
(C) most of them at least as large as Jupiter, circling
(D) mostly at least as large as Jupiter, which circle
(E) mostly as large or larger than Jupiter, circling

My question is - why is c correct and D wrong?
The problem i see in c is that the antecedent of "them" is ambiguous. "them" in c can refer to planets or astronomers (isn't it so?)

In D - mostly is an adverb which modifies the adjective (large).


C too
D has incorrect modifier. "Which" is D modifies "Jupiter" and "circle" is incorrect s-v agreement. Furthermore, the intended meaning is not that Jupiter circles other stars.
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2008, 18:31
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namurad wrote:
Guys, thanks for the replies. However, i would really appreciate explanations with the answers. I have already mentioned the answer with the question. I need answer to the question i have put up specifically.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Your question is:

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My question is - why is c correct and D wrong?
The problem i see in c is that the antecedent of "them" is ambiguous. "them" in c can refer to planets or astronomers (isn't it so?)

In D - mostly is an adverb which modifies the adjective (large).


Namurad,

The first part of your question: why C is correct?, and the reason attached!

"most of them..." modifies "more than 80 massive planets", NOT "astronomers". So "them" cannot refer to "astronomers"

Second part of your question: why D is wrong? actually as you think, it must have been correct because, as your reasoning, "mostly" modifies correctly "large"

Namurad,
If "Mostly", ofcouse in my opinion, want to modify "adj-large", it should be close to "large". For example: "at least as mostly large as..."- that is my rephrase only.

One more thing, "mostly..." should modify " the main verb "detected". That is why it make the sentence sound akawd. Right?

Let be advised with some replies above together!
Just my 2 cent!


Thanks sondenso for the detailed explanation :)
i got the point u mentioned about modifier "mostly". For the first part of my question - i need some more clarification. Could you please tell me what is the subject in the sentence. "astronomers" or "massive planets"? I read somewhere (on this forum itself) that "only use subjective form of pronoun to refer to a subject and any other form takes object (or possessive) form." Here "them" is the objective form, hence it should not refer to subject of the sentence. If the subject is "astronomers", the point will be proven.
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2011, 03:40
A, B and E are out since fail to do the correct comparision (as large as).

Between C and D:

In D, "which" does not refer back to Jupiter since "circle" is plural, so it refers to planets and that is correct.

In C, "them" is ambiguous an can refer to both astronomers and planets. Also, "circling" can perfectly refer back to "astronomers" (The astronomers have detected X, circling other stars - Please, I want to meet these astronomers!).

Thoughst on that?

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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2011, 08:58
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(A) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle --> Missing as
(B) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter and circling --> Missing as
(C) most of them at least as large as Jupiter, circling --> Correct
(D) mostly at least as large as Jupiter, which circle
(E) mostly as large or larger than Jupiter, circling
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2011, 10:20
also 'as large as' --- is an idiom I believe ......
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 14 Mar 2011, 12:26
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(C)

(A) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle --> Missing as
(B) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter and circling --> Missing as
(C) most of them at least as large as Jupiter, circling --> Correct
(D) mostly at least as large as Jupiter, which circle
(E) mostly as large or larger than Jupiter, circling


could you please elaborate? thanks
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Re: SC - massive planets [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2011, 21:30
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In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle other stars.

(A) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter, which circle
(B) most of them as large or larger than Jupiter and circling
(C) most of them at least as large as Jupiter, circling
(D) mostly at least as large as Jupiter, which circle
(E) mostly as large or larger than Jupiter, circling

My question is - why is c correct and D wrong?
The problem i see in c is that the antecedent of "them" is ambiguous. "them" in c can refer to planets or astronomers (isn't it so?)

In D - mostly is an adverb which modifies the adjective (large).


them is an object pronoun thus refers correctly to planets.
In d which refers to jupiter which is wrong...it should refer to planets
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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2013, 06:52
If anything, E is a much closer second option than D.
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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2013, 21:12
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If anything, E is a much closer second option than D.


Hello mohnish

Sorry, I have to say E is worse than D! When you see the structure "as + adjective + OR + comparative...." ==> The correct structure MUST be: as X as OR larger than.... The second "as" is really important to make a comparison correct.

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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2014, 22:16
I initially crossed off (C), because "circling other stars" was not a result or consequence of the preceding clause, but after seeing the answer, I realized that "circling other stars" modifies "planets" given that "most of them as large or larger than Jupiter" is an appositive for "planets". Is this the correct logic?
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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 12 May 2014, 22:57
Is there a difference in meaning between the two sentences below?

In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets circling other stars.
In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets that circle other stars.

If there is no difference, then would both the sentences below be correct on the GMAT?

In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them atleast as large as Jupiter, circling other stars.

In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them atleast as large as Jupiter, that circle other stars.
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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 15 May 2014, 19:40
Could somebody answer my above question please?
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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 16 May 2014, 03:57
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Is there a difference in meaning between the two sentences below?

In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets circling other stars.
In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets that circle other stars.

If there is no difference, then would both the sentences below be correct on the GMAT?

In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them atleast as large as Jupiter, circling other stars.

In the past several years, astronomers have detected more than 80 massive planets, most of them atleast as large as Jupiter, that circle other stars.


Hi,

There is a difference in the meaning between the two sentences cited by you. To understand the same, please have a look at the following sentences:

1. I saw some dogs sitting outside the house.
2. I saw some dogs that sit outside the house.

In the first sentence you are talking about those dogs who were sitting outside the house when you spotted them. However, in the second sentence you are talking about a category of dogs and this category of dogs sits outside the house. So, in the second construction you are describing a general feature of these dogs.

Do you now see how the description of the planets changes with the change in the construction (from –ing modifier to that clause)?


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Re: In the past several years, astronomers have detected more [#permalink] New post 20 Aug 2014, 03:54
The modifier – “which circle…” modifies which noun? “80 massive planets” or “Jupiter”? Would you explain what is the underlying logic?
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