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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by 3 percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.

B. The number of people who move out of Florida to accept employment in other states has increased over the past ten years.

C. There are far more local businesses in Florida that cater to tourists than there are local businesses that cater to retirees.

D. The total number of people who retired and moved to another state for their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.

E. The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
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 [#permalink] New post 22 Feb 2005, 18:21
I will go with 'C'
Since there are more businesses catering to tourists there will not be any significant negative economic effect
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 06:44
yes it is (C).. it was recently discussed.
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 07:47
Sorry for the repost. but OA shows D. I had picked C originally and was very confused when I got it wrong.
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Guys this is a beauty. Please hammer this into your head. This is a standard percentage trap. Let me elaborate.

Assume that last year 1000 people in the US moved out of state to retire.
Of this say 10% moved to florida = 100 people
So 90% moved to states other than florida right?

This year 20000 people moved to other state to retire
Of this say 8% moved to florida = 160 people.
So 92% moved to states other than florida right?

Though the %of people moving to florida has decreased (because %of people moving to otherstates has increased) number of people moving to florida has infact increased from 100 to 160. So the local businesses are gonna do great.

The bold portion is what (D) says and thus weakens the argument more seriously than (C).

I hope I am clear.
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 08:11
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Can you please post the detailed explanation for D??

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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 08:41
My answer is C...If there are more local businesses catering to tourists than the decline in retirees moving to Florida shouldn't have an negative effect on the economy.
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 08:42
greenandwise wrote:
My answer is C...If there are more local businesses catering to tourists than the decline in retirees moving to Florida shouldn't have an negative effect on the economy.


SH#T!!! Fell for that traop again!!!! I see thanks anandnk!!!!! :evil:
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 08:44
greenandwise wrote:
My answer is C...If there are more local businesses catering to tourists than the decline in retirees moving to Florida shouldn't have an negative effect on the economy.


Read the argument properly

Having said that you are not alone. I fall into this trap many times.


Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses.

The argument is talking about the businesses that cater to retiries only.

(C) is in fact out of scope.
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 09:23
Exactly.

See this thread for some earlier discussions.
http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=80493
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 11:15
Thank you guys.
I see the perception and thinking, where I should improve :cry:
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 16:10
anandnk wrote:
Guys this is a beauty. Please hammer this into your head. This is a standard percentage trap. Let me elaborate.

Assume that last year 1000 people in the US moved out of state to retire.
Of this say 10% moved to florida = 100 people
So 90% moved to states other than florida right?

This year 20000 people moved to other state to retire
Of this say 8% moved to florida = 160 people.
So 92% moved to states other than florida right?

Though the %of people moving to florida has decreased (because %of people moving to otherstates has increased) number of people moving to florida has infact increased from 100 to 160. So the local businesses are gonna do great.

The bold portion is what (D) says and thus weakens the argument more seriously than (C).

I hope I am clear.



I was aware of this but could not implement here. S$%#... :beat :wall
Next time.. whenever I am gonna see any % in CR question, I will think of this trap. Thanks Anand/HongHu...

I need to improve alot.. :cry:
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 18:12
A. Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.
I'm inclined to pick to choice, because it says that other states are not faring better. I'll put this chooice up for further contemplation.

B. The number of people who move out of Florida to accept employment in other states has increased over the past ten years.
Not related.

C. There are far more local businesses in Florida that cater to tourists tha there are local businesses that cater to retirees.
-close call. But we're interested only in the local businesses that cate to retirees (see the limiting word 'these' businesses' in the passage), not other businesses.

D. The total number of people who retired and moved to another state for their retirement has increased significantly over the past ten years.
- I like this one. It explains why there is a percentage drop. There may stil be the same number of people going to Florida after retirement. In a mathematical sense, the numerator stays constant, while the denominator increases.

E. The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
- Not related.

I'll pick D over A. It's a better explanation and a more forceful argument to the conclusion given in the passage.
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 [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2005, 20:37
ywilfred wrote:
A. Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.
I'm inclined to pick to choice, because it says that other states are not faring better. I'll put this chooice up for further contemplation.



This is the same trap as the Chinese cell phone market one. In that question it says the US market share has been declining. Then in D it says US products are viewed as high quality ones, implying that this would prevent the declining of US market share. However it cannot change the fact that US market share has already been declining! This may make it decline more slowly, but does not change the fact that it is declining! And thus it does not weaken the argument.

In this question same thing happens. Question stem says percentage of retirees who move to FL has been declining. Then (A) says FL still have more retirees moving to it than any other state, and by this it somehow wants to refute the fact about the decline in the percentage of retiree moving to FL. But remember the fact is that the percentage has been declining! Even if it has more than any other state, the percentage is still declining! You cannot defeat the fact that is already established, and thus the argument cannot be weakened.
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