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In the x-y plane, the area of the region bounded by the graph of |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 is A. 8 B 12 C. 16 D. 20 E. 24 Need help in solving equations involving Mod...... help?
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Bunuel wrote: papillon86 wrote: In x-y plane, the area of the region bounded by the graph of |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 is
a) 8 b) 12 c) 16 d) 20
Need help in solving equations involving Mod...... help? I've never seen such kind of question in GMAT before. OK there can be 4 cases: |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 A. x+y+x-y = 4 --> x=2 B. x+y-x+y = 4 --> y=2 C. -x-y +x-y= 4 --> y=-2 D. -x-y-x+y=4 --> x=-2 The area bounded by 4 graphs x=2, x=-2, y=2, y=-2 will be square with the side of 4 so the area will be 4*4=16. Answer: C Why cant we consider (4,0) and (0,4) as points on graph ? then area would be different... , right?
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srini123 wrote: Why cant we consider (4,0) and (0,4) as points on graph ? then area would be different... , right? First of all we are not considering points separately, as we have X-Y plane and roots of equation will represent lines, we'll get the figure bounded by this 4 lines. The equations for the lines are: x=2 x=-2 y=2 y=-2 This lines will make a square with the side 4, hence area 4*4=16. Second: points (4,0) or (0,4) doesn't work for |x+y| + |x-y| = 4.
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Bunuel wrote: srini123 wrote: Why cant we consider (4,0) and (0,4) as points on graph ? then area would be different... , right? First of all we are not considering points separately, as we have X-Y plane and roots of equation will represent lines, we'll get the figure bounded by this 4 lines. The equations for the lines are: x=2 x=-2 y=2 y=-2 This lines will make a square with the side 4, hence area 4*4=16. Second: points (4,0) or (0,4) doesn't work for |x+y| + |x-y| = 4. Thanks Bunuel, I used similar method for a similar question and I got wrong answer the question was what is the area bounded by graph |x/2| + |y/2| = 5? I got hunderd since x=10 x=-10 y=10 y=-10 isnt the area 400 ? the answer given was 200, please explain
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what is the area bounded by graph|x/2| + |y/2| = 5?
I got hunderd since x=10 x=-10 y=10 y=-10
isnt the area 400 ? the answer given was 200, please explain I think this one is different. |\frac{x}{2}| + |\frac{y}{2}| = 5After solving you'll get equation of four lines: y=-10-xy=10+xy=10-xy=x-10These four lines will also make a square, BUT in this case the diagonal will be 20 so the Area=\frac{20*20}{2}=200. Or the Side= \sqrt{200}, area=200. If you draw these four lines you'll see that the figure (square) which is bounded by them is turned by 90 degrees and has a center at the origin. So the side will not be 20. Also you made a mistake in solving equation. The red part is not correct. You should have the equations written above. In our original question when we were solving the equation |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 each time x or y were cancelling out so we get equations of a type x=some value twice and y=some value twice. And these equations give the lines which are parallel to the Y or X axis respectively so the figure bounded by them is a "horizontal" square (in your question it's "diagonal" square). Hope it's clear.
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Thanks Bunuel , once again wonderful explanation +1 Kudos.. have a good day...
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Bunuel wrote: x=2 x=-2 y=2 y=-2
This lines will make a square with the side 4, hence area 4*4=16.
i am still now able to follow if the area that is formed with these lines is as per fig 1 or fig 2
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Thats same as what you see in fig 2 . agdimple333 wrote: Bunuel wrote: x=2 x=-2 y=2 y=-2
This lines will make a square with the side 4, hence area 4*4=16.
i am still now able to follow if the area that is formed with these lines is as per fig 1 or fig 2
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solving the inequality we have the following as solutions
x=2 y=2 y=-2 x=-2
drawing this in a graph, we can observe that it forms a square with side length of 4.
Hence the area is 4*4 = 16
Answer is C.
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so check for ++, +-, -+ and -- giving x=2|-2 and y=2|-2 hence a square with 4*4 area = 16
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|x-y| = x-y if x-y > 0 |x-y| = -(x-y) if x-y < 0 x+y > 0 => x > -y then x !> y x+y + x - y = 4 x = 2 -x - y + x - y = 4 (if x < -y, then x !< y) y = -2 x + y -x + y = 4 => y = 2 -x-y + x - y = 4 => y = -2 Answer - C
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Given |x-y| + |x+y| = 4
I don't understand why can't |x-y| and |x+y| be 1 and 3 instead of 2 and 2! (which again equals 4)
Can any one please explain this to me?
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VinuPriyaN wrote: Given |x-y| + |x+y| = 4
I don't understand why can't |x-y| and |x+y| be 1 and 3 instead of 2 and 2! (which again equals 4)
Can any one please explain this to me?
Thanks & Regards, Vinu Look at the solution given by Bunuel above. When you solve it, you get four equations. One of them is x = 2 which means that x = 2 and y can take any value. If y = 1, |x-y| = 1 and |x+y| = 3. For different values of y, |x-y| and |x+y| will get different values. We are not discounting any of them.
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Hi, Can this be solved by graphing. If yes .. how do we graph the equation with 2 mod parts VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: VinuPriyaN wrote: Given |x-y| + |x+y| = 4
I don't understand why can't |x-y| and |x+y| be 1 and 3 instead of 2 and 2! (which again equals 4)
Can any one please explain this to me?
Thanks & Regards, Vinu Look at the solution given by Bunuel above. When you solve it, you get four equations. One of them is x = 2 which means that x = 2 and y can take any value. If y = 1, |x-y| = 1 and |x+y| = 3. For different values of y, |x-y| and |x+y| will get different values. We are not discounting any of them.
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devinawilliam83 wrote: Hi, Can this be solved by graphing. If yes .. how do we graph the equation with 2 mod parts VeritasPrepKarishma wrote: VinuPriyaN wrote: Given |x-y| + |x+y| = 4
I don't understand why can't |x-y| and |x+y| be 1 and 3 instead of 2 and 2! (which again equals 4)
Can any one please explain this to me?
Thanks & Regards, Vinu Look at the solution given by Bunuel above. When you solve it, you get four equations. One of them is x = 2 which means that x = 2 and y can take any value. If y = 1, |x-y| = 1 and |x+y| = 3. For different values of y, |x-y| and |x+y| will get different values. We are not discounting any of them. Yes, it can be done by graphing. |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 can expand in four different wasy: A. x+y+x-y = 4 --> x=2 B. x+y-x+y = 4 --> y=2 C. -x-y +x-y= 4 --> y=-2 D. -x-y-x+y=4 --> x=-2 So you can draw all these four lines x=2, x=-2, y=2, y=-2 to get a square with the side of 4: Attachment:
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(1) derive all equations from |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 x+y+x-y =4 ==> x=2 x+y-x+y =4 ==> y=2 -x-y+x-y =4 ==> y=-2 -x-y-x+y =4 ==> x=-2 (2) Plot your four lines (3) Notice you have formed a square region bounded by x=2, y=2, y=-2 and x=-2 lines (4) Area = 4*4 = 16 Answer: C For more detailed solutions for similar question types:
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Quote: OK there can be 4 cases:
|x+y| + |x-y| = 4
A. x+y+x-y = 4 --> x=2 B. x+y-x+y = 4 --> y=2 C. -x-y +x-y= 4 --> y=-2 D. -x-y-x+y=4 --> x=-2
Bunuel, Would appreciate it, if you could thoroughly explain the above. Thanks.
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eaakbari wrote: Quote: OK there can be 4 cases:
|x+y| + |x-y| = 4
A. x+y+x-y = 4 --> x=2 B. x+y-x+y = 4 --> y=2 C. -x-y +x-y= 4 --> y=-2 D. -x-y-x+y=4 --> x=-2
Any absolute values such as |x| = 5 could mean that x = 5 or x = -5. Derive both (-) and (+) possibilities. For the problem: |x+y| + |x-y| = 4 We could derive two possibilities for |x+y| could be -(x+y) and (x+y) We could derive two possibilities for |x-y| could be -(x-y) and (x-y) This is the reason why we have 4 derived equations. (x+y) + (x-y) = 4 (x+y) - (x-y) = 4 -(x+y) + (x-y) = 4 -(x+y) - (x-y) = 4 Just simplify those... If you want more practice on this question type: http://burnoutorbreathe.blogspot.com/2012/12/absolute-values-solving-for-area-of.html
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