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In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circle. The point (-2, 1) lies inside the circle and the point (4, -3) lies outside the circle. If the radius r of the circle is an integer, then r =

A. 6
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In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circle. The point (-2, 1) lies inside the circle and the point (4, -3) lies outside the circle. If the radius r of the circle is an integer, then r =

A. 6
B. 5
C. 4
D. 3
E. 2

OA=B


The easiest way to solve this question will be just to mark the points on the coordinate plane. You'll see that the distance between the center (-2, -3) and the point inside the circle (-2, 1) is 4 units (both points are on x=-2 line so the distance will simply be 1-(-3)=4) so the radius must be more than 4, and the distance between the center (-2, -3) and the point outside the circle (4, -3) is 6 units (both points are on y=-3 line so the distance will simply be 4-(-2)=6) so the radius must be less then 6 --> 4<r<6, thus as r is an integer then r=5.

Answer: B.

For more on this issues check Coordinate Geometry chapter of Math Book: math-coordinate-geometry-87652.html

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Re: In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circl [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2013, 03:47
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Okay i used another method but i'm not getting the answer
so I used the equation (x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2, and put in the values of the center (-2,-3), which then comes out to be
(x+2)^2+(y+3)^2=r^2. Then i substitute the values of the inside point i.e (-2,1) for x and y and my radius comes out to be 4. I don't know what am i doing wrong here?


What you are doing wrong is that the point (-2,1) doesn't lie ON the circle. You can not substitute this value for the circle's equation.
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Re: In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circl [#permalink] New post 15 Mar 2013, 14:14
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See the attached drawing.

We can easily see by drawing the problem that a Radius=4 is not enough, as the circle will have its frontier in (-2,1) - see the clear circle - and therefore the point will NOT be inside the circle.

If we increase the radius to the next integer Radius=5, this is solved, as the point (-2,1) will fall inside the circle, while the point (4,-3) will fall outside the circle - see the dark circle -. And this is the only feasible solution to the problem.

Solution: Radius=5

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Re: Problem with question Coordinate Geometry [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2010, 06:23
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Re: Problem with question Coordinate Geometry [#permalink] New post 18 Nov 2010, 08:24
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Re: Problem with question Coordinate Geometry [#permalink] New post 20 Nov 2010, 13:26
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rite2deepti wrote:
In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circle. The point (-2, 1) lies inside the circle and the point (4, -3) lies outside the circle. If the radius r of the circle is an integer, then r =

A. 6
B. 5
C. 4
D. 3
E. 2

OA=B


The easiest way to solve this question will be just to mark the points on the coordinate plane. You'll see that the distance between the center (-2, -3) and the point inside the circle (-2, 1) is 4 units (both points are on x=-2 line so the distance will simply be 1-(-3)=4) so the radius must be more than 4, and the distance between the center (-2, -3) and the point outside the circle (4, -3) is 6 units (both points are on y=-3 line so the distance will simply be 4-(-2)=6) so the radius must be less then 6 --> 4<r<6, thus as r is an integer then r=5.

Answer: B.

For more on this issues check Coordinate Geometry chapter of Math Book: math-coordinate-geometry-87652.html

Hope it helps.


What would be more time saving is just to use the distance formula to get the dist between center and point inside the circle as 4 &
Distance between the center and outside point as 6 so 4<r<6 as above and Answer is B .
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Re: Problem with question Coordinate Geometry [#permalink] New post 03 Jan 2013, 21:07
rite2deepti wrote:
In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circle. The point (-2, 1) lies inside the circle and the point (4, -3) lies outside the circle. If the radius r of the circle is an integer, then r =

A. 6
B. 5
C. 4
D. 3
E. 2

OA=B


Simply plot the coordinates and you will figure out that r is greater than 4 but less than 6: 4 < r < 6

Answer: B
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Re: In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circl [#permalink] New post 12 Mar 2013, 02:02
Okay i used another method but i'm not getting the answer
so I used the equation (x-a)^2+(y-b)^2=r^2, and put in the values of the center (-2,-3), which then comes out to be
(x+2)^2+(y+3)^2=r^2. Then i substitute the values of the inside point i.e (-2,1) for x and y and my radius comes out to be 4. I don't know what am i doing wrong here?
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Re: In the xy-plane, the point (-2, -3) is the center of a circl [#permalink] New post 01 Aug 2013, 06:36
Could someone help me how go about this?
Since (4,-3) lies outside the circle, it is clear that one of the point that lies on the circle is (x,-3). The other point (-2,1) lies inside the circle, so another point on the circle would be (-2,y). We also know that the center is (-2,-3). Join the center to the point (x,-3) and (-2,y) to form the 2 radius. After equating the 2 lines I get (y+3)^2=(x+2)^2. What should I do ahead?
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