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Bunuel wrote: 4. Are x and y both positive? (1) 2x-2y=1 (2) x/y>1
(1) 2x-2y=1. Well this one is clearly insufficient. You can do it with number plugging OR consider the following: x and y both positive means that point (x,y) is in the I quadrant. 2x-2y=1 --> y=x-1/2, we know it's an equation of a line and basically question asks whether this line (all (x,y) points of this line) is only in I quadrant. It's just not possible. Not sufficient.
(2) x/y>1 --> x and y have the same sign. But we don't know whether they are both positive or both negative. Not sufficient.
(1)+(2) Again it can be done with different approaches. You should just find the one which is the less time-consuming and comfortable for you personally.
One of the approaches: 2x-2y=1 --> x=y+\frac{1}{2} \frac{x}{y}>1 --> \frac{x-y}{y}>0 --> substitute x --> \frac{1}{y}>0 --> y is positive, and as x=y+\frac{1}{2}, x is positive too. Sufficient.
Answer: C. I am a little confused on this one . Can the answer be E?? From A: 2x-2y=1 => x-y= 0.5 INSF From B x/y > 1 => x > y INSF From A & B x-y =0.5 and x > y If x = -0.5 and y = -1 then x > y and x - y = (-0.5) - (-1) = -0.5 + 1 = 0.5 Hence both x and y can be negative If x= 1 and y = 0.5 then x > y and x- y = 1 -0.5 = 0.5 Hence both x and y can be positive Ans = E ??
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ManishS wrote: I am a little confused on this one . Can the answer be E??
From A: 2x-2y=1 => x-y= 0.5 INSF
From B x/y > 1 => x > y INSF
From A & B x-y =0.5 and x > y
If x = -0.5 and y = -1 then x > y and x - y = (-0.5) - (-1) = -0.5 + 1 = 0.5 Hence both x and y can be negative
If x= 1 and y = 0.5 then x > y and x- y = 1 -0.5 = 0.5 Hence both x and y can be positive
Ans = E ?? Problem with your solution is that the red part is not correct. \frac{x}{y}>1 does not mean that x>y. If both x and y are positive, then x>y, BUT if both are negative, then x<y. From (2) \frac{x}{y}>1, we can only deduce that x and y have the same sigh (either both positive or both negative). When we consider two statement together:From (1): 2x-2y=1 --> x=y+\frac{1}{2}From (2): \frac{x}{y}>1 --> \frac{x}{y}-1>0 --> \frac{x-y}{y}>0 --> substitute x from (1) --> \frac{y+\frac{1}{2}-y}{y}>0--> \frac{1}{2y}>0 ( we can drop 2 as it won't affect anything here and write as I wrote \frac{1}{y}>0, but basically it's the same) --> \frac{1}{2y}>0 means y is positive, and from (2) we know that if y is positive x must also be positive. OR: as y is positive and as from (1) x=y+\frac{1}{2}, x=positive+\frac{1}{2}=positive, hence x is positive too. Answer: C. Hope it's clear.
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Bunuel wrote: ManishS wrote: I am a little confused on this one . Can the answer be E??
From A: 2x-2y=1 => x-y= 0.5 INSF
From B x/y > 1 => x > y INSF
From A & B x-y =0.5 and x > y
If x = -0.5 and y = -1 then x > y and x - y = (-0.5) - (-1) = -0.5 + 1 = 0.5 Hence both x and y can be negative
If x= 1 and y = 0.5 then x > y and x- y = 1 -0.5 = 0.5 Hence both x and y can be positive
Ans = E ?? Problem with your solution is that the red part is not correct. \frac{x}{y}>1 does not mean that x>y. If both x and y are positive, then x>y, BUT if both are negative, then x<y. From (2) \frac{x}{y}>1, we can only deduce that x and y have the same sigh (either both positive or both negative). When we consider two statement together:From (1): 2x-2y=1 --> x=y+\frac{1}{2}From (2): \frac{x}{y}>1 --> \frac{x}{y}-1>0 --> \frac{x-y}{y}>0 --> substitute x from (1) --> \frac{y+\frac{1}{2}-y}{y}>0--> \frac{1}{2y}>0 ( we can drop 2 as it won't affect anything here and write as I wrote \frac{1}{y}>0, but basically it's the same) --> \frac{1}{2y}>0 means y is positive, and from (2) we know that if y is positive x must also be positive. OR: as y is positive and as from (1) x=y+\frac{1}{2}, x=positive+\frac{1}{2}=positive, hence x is positive too. Answer: C. Hope it's clear. Thank you so much. This really was helpful.
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h2polo wrote: Bunuel wrote: 2. If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0? (1) x < 0 (2) y < 1
Another way of looking at the problem is to ask, is x<0? Because if it is, then we know that y is zero. The only case in which y will not be zero is if x is positive. Statement 1: x<0... answers my question above. SUFFICIENT Statement 2: y<1 Because y is an integer, it must be one of the following values: 0, -1, -2, -3... BUT |x| + x can never be a negative value. The lowest value that it can be is 0. Hence, y can never be negative and the only possible value it can be then is 0. SUFFICIENT ANSWER: D. ---------------------------- hear it is not give that X is also a integer, S1: if X=1/2 or -1/2 then also Y is integer , in this case Ans: B Is i am missing somthing?
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varun2410 wrote: ---------------------------- hear it is not give that X is also a integer,
S1: if X=1/2 or -1/2 then also Y is integer ,
in this case Ans: B
Is i am missing somthing? OA' s and solutions for all the problems are given in my posts on pages 2 and 3. OA for this question is D. Below is solution for it. 2. If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0? (1) x < 0 (2) y < 1 Note: y=|x|+x, this expression is never negative. For x>{0} then y=x+x=2x and for x\leq{0} then (when x is negative or zero) then y=-x+x=0. (1) x<0 --> y=|x|+x=-x+x=0. Sufficient. (2) y<1, as we concluded y is never negative, and we are given that y is an integer, hence y=0. Sufficient. Answer: D.Hope it's clear.
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3. is X^2+Y^2 > 4a?
1) (X+Y)^2= 9a
x^2+2xy+Y^2=9a
Insufficient
2) (X-y)^2= a
x^2-2XY+Y^2 = a
Insufficient
Combining 1 & 2, 2(X^2+Y^2)=10a X^2+Y^2 = 5a, thus C
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this thread has helped a lot.. thanks!
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Whoa, inequalities and AV's did me in for my first GMAT! Great thread!
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Ive got C for this question.. when both together yields x^2 + y^2 = 5a why it is E? Also I dont understand the explanation of below, St. (1) and (2) together : x^2 + y^2 = 5a
When either x or y is not 0, question stem holds true. When x and y are both 0, question stem is false. Can somebody clarify how to solve this please... sriharimurthy wrote: Quote: 3. Is x^2 + y^2 > 4a? (1) (x + y)^2 = 9a (2) (x – y)^2 = a St. (1) : (x + y)^2 = 9a
x^2 + y^2 + 2xy = 9a Insufficient. St. (2) : (x - y)^2 = a
x^2 + y^2 - 2xy = a Insufficient. St. (1) and (2) together : x^2 + y^2 = 5a
When either x or y is not 0, question stem holds true. When x and y are both 0, question stem is false. Hence insufficient. Answer : E
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gmatJP wrote: Ive got C for this question.. when both together yields x^2 + y^2 = 5a why it is E? Also I dont understand the explanation of below, St. (1) and (2) together : x^2 + y^2 = 5a
When either x or y is not 0, question stem holds true. When x and y are both 0, question stem is false. Can somebody clarify how to solve this please... sriharimurthy wrote: Quote: 3. Is x^2 + y^2 > 4a? (1) (x + y)^2 = 9a (2) (x – y)^2 = a St. (1) : (x + y)^2 = 9a
x^2 + y^2 + 2xy = 9a Insufficient. St. (2) : (x - y)^2 = a
x^2 + y^2 - 2xy = a Insufficient. St. (1) and (2) together : x^2 + y^2 = 5a
When either x or y is not 0, question stem holds true. When x and y are both 0, question stem is false. Hence insufficient. Answer : EOA' s and solutions for all the problems are given in my posts on pages 2 and 3. OA for this question is E. When we consider statement together we'll have: x^2+y^2=5a. Now, if x, y and a are different from zero (for example: x=3, y=4 and a=5) then x^2+y^2=5a>4a and the answer to the question is YES, but if x=y=a=0, then x^2+y^2=5a=4a=0 and the answer to the question is NO. Two different answers, thus not sufficient. Hope it's clear.
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Hi Bunuel, If 6*x*y = x^2*y + 9*y, what is the value of xy? (1) y – x = 3 (2) x^3< 0
y*(x-3)^2 = 0 means x=3 or/and y=0.
I have been thinking that ONLY either of the variables can be zero. i.e x=3 or y=0. So should i always consider the possibility of both X=3 and Y=0 ?
Can you explain the concept?
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Hi Bunuel, I forgot to thank you for these great questions and solutions. You are the BEST!!!!
If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0? (1) x < 0 (2) y < 1
(2) y<1, as we concluded y is never negative, and we are given that y is an integer, hence . Sufficient.
In the above problem, it is very obvious that Y is not equal to 0 from the 2nd statement. Do you think GMAT questions will have this much obvious statements?
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ramadossvinodh wrote: Hi Bunuel, I forgot to thank you for these great questions and solutions. You are the BEST!!!!
If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0? (1) x < 0 (2) y < 1
(2) y<1, as we concluded y is never negative, and we are given that y is an integer, hence . Sufficient.
In the above problem, it is very obvious that Y is not equal to 0 from the 2nd statement. Do you think GMAT questions will have this much obvious statements? The trick here is to conclude that y can not be negative, the rest is relatively easy. And yes, I think you can see such questions on GMAT.
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lagomez wrote: 10. If n is not equal to 0, is |n| < 4 ? (1) n^2 > 16 (2) 1/|n| > n
answer A because in number 2 n can be negative or a fraction Doubt :The question is is |N|<4 ,from statement 2 we can see that n can only be a fraction or its value lies between 0 and 1 like say 1/2 .1/3 etc.same for negative fractions for example for n =1/2 , 1/(|1/2|)=2 which is greater than n=1/2 Also for n=-1/2,1/(|-1/2|)=2 which is greater than n=-1/2 for negative integers also its true ,say we take n=-3 , 1/|n|=1/3 which is greater than n=-3 But point to note is that both negative nos and fractions are less than 4 ,so this statement is equally sufficient ,correct me if i am wrong !!!!
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amlan009 wrote: lagomez wrote: 10. If n is not equal to 0, is |n| < 4 ? (1) n^2 > 16 (2) 1/|n| > n
answer A because in number 2 n can be negative or a fraction Doubt :The question is is |N|<4 ,from statement 2 we can see that n can only be a fraction or its value lies between 0 and 1 like say 1/2 .1/3 etc.same for negative fractions for example for n =1/2 , 1/(|1/2|)=2 which is greater than n=1/2 Also for n=-1/2,1/(|-1/2|)=2 which is greater than n=-1/2 for negative integers also its true ,say we take n=-3 , 1/|n|=1/3 which is greater than n=-3 But point to note is that both negative nos and fractions are less than 4 ,so this statement is equally sufficient ,correct me if i am wrong !!!! \frac{1}{|n|}>n holds true for ALL negative values of n, as if n<0 then LHS=positive>RHS=negative. Hence we don't know whether -4<n<4 is true. That's why statement (2) is not sufficient. The complete range of n for which \frac{1}{|n|}>n holds true is n<1. P.S. OA's and solutions for all question are given in my posts on pages 2 and 3. Hope it's clear.
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1. If 6*x*y = x^2*y + 9*y, what is the value of xy? (1) y – x = 3 (2) x^3< 0 First, devide the whole equation by y, and 6*x=x^2+9 => x^2-6*x+9=0 => (x-3)^2=0, x=3, -3 (1) We know x could be 3 oro -3, let's put these two numbers in and see, if x=3, y =6, xy= 18,... and if x=-3, y =0, xy= 0. We can't know for sure what the value of that is. .... Insufficient (2)Now we know X^3 is less than 0, then x must be less than 0 too. that means it has to be -3, then the answer comes out! .... Sufficient B
2. If y is an integer and y = |x| + x, is y = 0? (1) x < 0 (2) y < 1 (1)Sufficient (2)Sufficient, y couldn't be negative, the least it could be is 0. D 3. Is x^2 + y^2 > 4a? (1) (x + y)^2 = 9a (2) (x – y)^2 = a
(1) (x+y)^2= x^2+y^2+2x*y 9a=x^2+y^2+2x*y Still Insufficient
(2) (x-y)^2=x^2+y^2-2x*y a=x^2+y^2-2x*y Insufficient
Sum up equations (1) and (2) , then we can get 10a=2(x^2+y^2) => 5a=x^2+y^2, and we know a is necessarily positive since (x – y)^2 = a With both factors, we can know x^2 + y^2 >4a
the answer is C
4. Are x and y both positive? (1) 2x-2y=1 (2) x/y>1
(1)Insufficient (2)that only tells you x is greater than y Insufficient (1) and (2) together: x-y=0.5, and x is great than y, Insufficient E
5. What is the value of y? (1) 3|x^2 -4| = y - 2 (2) |3 - y| = 11
(1) we only know y must be positive, insufficient (2)y coule be -8 or 14 insufficient BOth (1) and (2): from statement (1) weve learned that y must be a positive number, along with statement (2) we know y is 14 the answer is C
6. If x and y are integer, is y > 0? (1) x +1 > 0 (2) xy > 0
(1)x>-1, we wouldnt know anything about y with that, insufficient (2)xy>0, if x is less than 0, then y too has to be less than 0 Insufficient
both (1) and (2): xy>0, x>-1, x could be 0 or any positive integer, and even if x=0, y still has to be great than 0 coz xy>0 Sufficient C
7. |x+2|=|y+2| what is the value of x+y? (1) xy<0 (2) x>2 y<2
(1)xy<0, that means either x or y is positive and the other negative. seems like x+y= -4, coz x+2=-2-y => x+y=-4, sufficient (2) Sufficient too, same reasons as above
D
8. a*b#0. Is |a|/|b|=a/b? (1) |a*b|=a*b (2) |a|/|b|=|a/b|
(1) a*b has to be positive, a/b has to positive too. Sufficient
(2) we already know that for sure, Insufficient
A
9. Is n<0? (1) -n=|-n| (2) n^2=16
(1)since the absolute value must be positive, so we know n has to be negative, or 0 Not Sufficient (2)ok, n could be 4 or -4, so what? Insufficient BOth (1) and (2) together: ok, n could be 4 or -4, and it's less than or equal to zero, so it must be -4 Sufficient
C
10. If n is not equal to 0, is |n| < 4 ? (1) n^2 > 16 (2) 1/|n| > n
(1) n>4 or n<-4, |n| must be greater than 4 sufficient (2)we only know n<1, |n| could be greater than 4 if n < -4 insufficient
A
11. Is |x+y|>|x-y|? (1) |x| > |y| (2) |x-y| < |x|
Just leave it for a while
12. Is r=s? (1) -s<=r<=s (2) |r|>=s
(1) Not sufficient (2) Not sufficient Together: Still Not sufficient
13. Is |x-1| < 1? (1) (x-1)^2 <= 1 (2) x^2 - 1 > 0
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Re: Inequality and absolute value questions from my collection [#permalink]
16 Aug 2010, 08:10
An excellent resource. Thanks Bunuel
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Re: Inequality and absolute value questions from my collection [#permalink]
21 Oct 2010, 22:54
Great stuff. Learned a lot from this set.
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My Debrief: 750-q49v42-105591.html#p825487
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Re: Inequality and absolute value questions from my collection [#permalink]
01 Nov 2010, 00:55
Dear Bunuel,
I don't quite understand your explanation on question 4, could you please explain to me again?. When I solved both statement 1 and 2, the answer can be + or -, therefore, how the answer comes up with only 1 sign?.
Thanks New member
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Re: Inequality and absolute value questions from my collection
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01 Nov 2010, 00:55
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