INSEAD Campus Visit - debrief

It has been one week since I came back from my INSEAD Campus visit and I think its high time to post a debrief, lest I forget it. The views presented here are mine and might not represent the generic view. I would divide the debrief into multiple parts: The reaching there and getting out bits and the core event bits.


In House Event - Intro by the Admissions Director
This was a general presentation about the INSEAD MBA program and was more or less a repitition of what is already available on the website and the MBA Brochure. The exchange within Campuses and the Wharton Exchange was highlighted in the presentation. The short presentation was followed by a sample class.

In House Event - Sample Class - Operations and Technology
We had a special class for the In-house event attendees and Prof. Ludo Van der Heyden took the class. He taught at Yale before returning to Europe and joining INSEAD. Must have been in his early 60s.

The case study for the class was video based, which i found particularly interesting. The topic was Productivity and the scope was definition of productivity in non conventional businesses like a General Hospital vs. a Speciality Clinic. We saw a video about Shouldice Hospital http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouldice_Hernia_Centre and discussed the secret behind its success.

In House Event - Intro by the Admissions Manager
The Admissions Manager talked about the Admission Criteria and highlited the importance of four core criteria:
Leadership Potential: To be shown in essays and recommendation letters.
Academic Capacity: GPAs and GMAT.
Intercultural Competence/International Outlook: Through travel, work and languauges spoken.
Ability to contribute to the INSEAD experience: Through Essays and Alumni Interviews. The interviewers make it a point to see if you fit into the general INSEAD environment and if they can see you as one of their study group mates.

She also mentioned that one should ideally press the SUBMIT button on the application a couple of days before the deadline. The day of the deadline is really hectic and one might not be able to submit properly.

In House Event - Presentation by Career Services
The Career Services lady talked about the industry contacts that they have and that they function as vital links between the students and Companies. Their services are also available to the INSEAD alumni and its practically a life long connection. They have had a tough time in 2009 and the number of students going to Finance has come down. She showed us the current CV book, which had resumes of about 400 students. Guess the HR departments have a lot to read before they shortlist their candidates. The students get a lot of support from the Career Services and the Alumni, but in the end it all upto the candidate himself. One has to be real good to land the plum job. The brand just gets you the contacts, rest is all upto you.

In House Event - Q&A with current students
Four current students came to talk to us for about 30 min.
[*] Japanese Engineer with 10 yrs work-ex. Lives with wife and son on campus.
[*] Brazilian girl with Procurement Management experience. 3-4 years work ex.
[*] Columbian Girl with some work-ex in homeland and France.
[*] Belgian guy with work-ex in Greek and Chinese olympic games. Has studies Mandarin Studies in UK.

A sample of questions:
- Their reasons for coming to INSEAD
- Their experiences with intercultural study groups
- One thing that they would change about INSEAD
- most said nothing. One said that the 1 yr was too fast. He would like to spend more time learning.
- How to better prepare for joining the program
- business courses for engineers.
- Chateau parties
- Is living in Paris and travelling everyday possible
- Straight NO

In House Event - Cocktail and Snacks with students and Admissions Manager
Great snacks and wine. Very well organized. All credit goes to the organizer Andrew Bueno. I realized that there were people who flew down from Russia, Serbia, London, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania etc for the event. Imagine if the inhouse event was so international, how the actual program would be. We talk to the Admissions Manager about GPA and GMAT criteria and the ways one can demonstrate leadership potential. There were 2-3 guys from the Sept 2010 entry waitlist.

Reaching there and getting out
Getting there was not as troublefree as I had expected it to be, but was nevertheless great. Arrived on Paris East and had to go to Paris-Lyon for the train to Fontainblau-Avon. The 3 km stretch took 30 min by a taxi. I had read that there is no Metro connection between the two stations and thought that taxi would be a good idea. My bad that I didn't know about the Parisian Traffic. I missed the train I wanted, but was nevertheless on time for the Event.

We had a INSEAD bus waiting for us at the Fontainblau Station which took 10 mins to take us there. We met Andrew Bueno at the Reception and he led us to AMPHI 2, where the event was scheduled.

A bus took us to the station after the event. Met other visitors on the train and spontaneousily planned a post dinner drinks session in Paris.

All in all a very insightful trip and now I can relate very well to INSEAD. I would definitely recommend a visit to anyone applying to INSEAD.

gr8, this would be really helpful to all. Kudos.

Another thing that I remember from my discussions with the Admissions Manager is that the average GMAT score for Indian candidates is usually above 720. The said, she also mentioned that they look at the overall profile of the candidate and consider the diversity the he/she brings to the table.

So, if you are Indian Engineer Male like me, better aim for a GMAT above 700 for INSEAD.

I dont find this fair enough to have an average GMAT score higher for Indians only. Just because there are many applicants from India, it doesnt mean that they all should score a high nin GMAT. All students should be treated alike!!!!

Wonderful post. I really enjoyed reading your experience.

I seem to agree with the point that all applicants should be treated alike, irrespective of nationality. If GMAT score is perceived to be a numerical representation of one's intellect, then it is only fair to have the same cut-off for people of all nationalities.

Would love to hear the other side of the argument.

Cheers.

hey msunny,
thanks for sharing ur INSEAD experience with us. It was really wonderful reading it. Well what u said about the gmat score is true again, just wanted to know if u can help.. even i come from engineering background.. so just wanted to know about the work experience you have under ur belt.. ll be glad if u help..
thanks again.

Great post!!!

But one question,did the campus visit really help in terms of getting any new info on the application process,acceptability criteria or your decision of going to the school?

Looking forward to your response.


Best,

Roy

Hi! msunny. I was there at the Insead visit and interesting to see a fellow gmat clubber there as well. I fully agree that it was a very well organised event. Do let me know if you are planning to apply there. I have already applied (R3) and it was on the site visit that they told me that I have been shortlisted for interviews. Now my interviews have taken places and I am waiting... fingers crossed.
Does anyone know when do they start announcing the final results for R3. Is it a fixed deadline or not?

They don't put an average GMAT based on Nationality. What INSEAD Adcom highly values is diversity. Now you may ask, what does diversity mean ?. Diversity can be speaking different languages, work experience abroad, having a unique profession, having unique hobbies, being a woman can also add to diversity, then Nationality. Each of these points are weighed by the adcom to reach at your diversity quotient w.r.t other candidates. For an Indian Engineer Male, this diversity quotient is nearly the same as most others in the Indian peer group. Then they look at your GPA, at your Undergrad University, your GMAT etc to differentiate you from others. Since most of the people in the peer group have high GMATs, they are bound to choose Indian candidates with above average GMAT scores.

Do you agree with me here ?

In terms of any information on the application process and acceptability criteria, there is already a lot of information available on the INSEAD website and forums like gmatclub. So, being there didn't help with making the application process any clearer. Some people did have questions like " I cannot ask my current boss for a reco, can I ask the client ?" and such, but these are the questions that you have to decide on. The INSEAD Application wants people who have had close contact with you and can answer questions about you.

With respect to the "decision of going to the school", I feel that the whole In House event experience is really valuable. You get to realize that when you join INSEAD, your life will more or less be confined to the small city of Fontainbleu and that a trip to Paris might only happen twice a month. But, the life on and off campus will keep you more than busy to even think about visiting Paris. I see that as a positive.

The campus and the student body are also two very important parts of an MBA program. I personally like the feel of the campus and the interacations with the student body. They were truly international and I feel it would be fun to be with such people. They provide a great new perspective to your thinking.

I would definitely recommend a campus visit to anyone planning to attend INSEAD.

my 2 cents.

Ok I guess with the kind of investment one ends up making in doing an MBA, it is a good idea to visit the school.

The idea of visiting a school does't really click with me,because I didn't even know where my college was located when I went to get admitted in my bachelors and there wasn't much talk around of going to campuses and seeing what the colleges are like.

So I guess i'm going to warm up to the idea and go for a school visit.

Thank you for the valuable 2 cents!

Best,

Roy

I would caution against trying to figure out what GMAT score is ideal. As one of the few INSEAD bounds folks on here - to get a look you need a 650. Once you have that your GMAT is no longer the issue. The greater challenge for most Indian Male IT guys is differentiating themselves within their applicant pool. I see few ways of doing that via academic potential -- it will mostly be on other parameter.s

Don't they always say they want 80% on both verbal and quant? So not just the total GMAT score matters?

Campus visits will only expose you to part of the INSEAD experience.

Here's a look into the real thing:

youtu.be/V26F0ztg0xg

(since I'm new to the forums, I'm not allowed to post websites , so the best alternative is the above... just stick it into your address bar )

See you around...