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03 Jun 2010, 15:05
I got accepted for the Jan '11 intake and currently the tuition costs are looming large on my mind. I'd like to know how other people are approaching it, and whether this has any weight on your acceptance of the offer. Basically I can pay for living expenses and keep an 'oh-god-economy-sux' buffer in the bank, but that still leaves me having to finance nearly the entire 52,000 euro tuition payment with a loan (if I get it, but that's another story.) With a good amount of luck I could swing a scholarship, summer internship, and sign-on bonus to cut this down to half almost immediately on graduation. On the other hand, a worst case scenario has me with a 1,000 monthly bill for the next five years. (If you can't tell by now I'm not a huge fan of debt, leveraged or not!) What are other people's approaches here? According to adcom stats I won't be the only one self-financing. Am I the only one without a rich, benevolent family member?
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
04 Jun 2010, 08:27
monkeypunch wrote: I got accepted for the Jan '11 intake and currently the tuition costs are looming large on my mind. I'd like to know how other people are approaching it, and whether this has any weight on your acceptance of the offer. Basically I can pay for living expenses and keep an 'oh-god-economy-sux' buffer in the bank, but that still leaves me having to finance nearly the entire 52,000 euro tuition payment with a loan (if I get it, but that's another story.) With a good amount of luck I could swing a scholarship, summer internship, and sign-on bonus to cut this down to half almost immediately on graduation. On the other hand, a worst case scenario has me with a 1,000 monthly bill for the next five years. (If you can't tell by now I'm not a huge fan of debt, leveraged or not!) What are other people's approaches here? According to adcom stats I won't be the only one self-financing. Am I the only one without a rich, benevolent family member?  No you arent - I havent even finalized my loan yet. But while 52K euros arent chump change, over a 30 yr working career it most certainly is chump change. I have never had debt of my own in the past but I am surprisingly relaxed about this future debt.
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
05 Jun 2010, 13:28
Hmm, was the other comment self-deleted or is this a pro-MBA conspiracy?
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
06 Jun 2010, 08:22
Prodigy Finance, a UK based company founded by INSEAD grads, offers loans to students admitted to INSEAD regardless of nationality. The avg loan they provide is 30000 euros.
google: "prodigy finance" (sorry i need to have 5 posts on gmatclub before i can post a link to their website)
Has anyone had any experience with Prodigy? Are the loans guaranteed ?
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
13 Jul 2010, 22:20
I wrote to prodigy the day I got my admit and I still havent heard from them despite multiple followups. The only response I get is that we will look into your application later, were busy currently. Its almost 45 days now..
Has any INSEAD Jan 2011 admit heard from them as yet. Did any of you June admits also encounter the same situation.
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
14 Jul 2010, 00:05
I submitted my Prodigy app last week and got an automated response: Thank you for your application with us. Please note that we are currently processing July 11 students and we will be processing your class’s applications by the end of July. I think I'll give HSBC and NatWest a try soon. I heard not-so-good things about HSBC but met an admit last night who said her approval from them was a piece of cake (she banks with them, as do I.) I've heard better things about NatWest, but we'll see!
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17 Jul 2010, 21:57
Just heard from Prodigy Theyve asked to wait till the 26th.
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
02 Aug 2010, 00:51
Hi everyone, thanks for your messages below. I am admitted for the INSEAD MBA J12 Class starting in Singapore.
I am currently working in Australia under a 457 visa (sponsorship). I am not a Permanent Resident of Australia. My chances of becoming a Resident have been reduced due to last changes on immigration Policies (despite of my skills, work, etc); however, is still not impossible that I get the residency after September, but it will imply a big movement in terms of time and money investment, so I would like to be clear about how useful it would be in terms of getting a loan for the MBA. My home country is in South America, and there are no loans to MBA students over there.
So I would like to explore (in advance, as you might see) the possibilities here, in Australia. My questions at this stage are the following, if anyone can help me:
1- Does anyone know about MBA loans for 457 visa holders? I can prove a quite good record of income in Australia, working for a quite important company, etc
2- How does it work for Permanent Residents (or citizens of Australia)? Do they get MBA loans "easily", for overseas Schools as the INSEAD? What banks should I contact? (I saw that Natwest could be an option) What interest rates?
If anyone would like to meet for lunch or coffee to discuss further, I would be very grateful as well. I currently work in North Sydney. Not sure if I can post my email here?
Many thanks in advance and wish the best for those admitted for the J11 intake as I saw below.
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02 Aug 2010, 01:00
Hey guys. Any idea what sorts of questions Prodigy asks your reference person? Since only one reference person can be a family member, I want to make sure that I am comfortable with the kind of information Prodigy seeks to verify before giving a name of a reference person.
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
09 Aug 2010, 21:44
anyone here taken a study loan on top of home loan? i'm from india and have a home loan running with Euro 500 monthly instalment (fixed for 3yrs), any idea if that makes the chance of edu loan very low? somewhat like monkeypunch - I can pay for living expenses, home loan and keep an 'oh-god-economy-sux' buffer in the bank and may be manage up to Euro 10K for tuitions, but thats max
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
12 Aug 2010, 07:57
hey guys Does any of you apply for any Insead scholarships as one of MBA financing option?
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
31 Aug 2010, 07:41
Just following up on this thread - I applied to Prodigy for a loan some time back (in June - but they didn't process the 11'D apps until mid-July) and had my loan accepted. In terms of the questions they ask personal referees, I don't think they actually contacted anyone! They were really easy to deal with, and got the loan sorted very quickly once the decision had been made (around July 26th).
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31 Aug 2010, 08:02
Hi guys, many thanks for the tips, just asking again, any Australian here that did/will do the MBA INSEAD? CHeers.
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Re: INSEAD & Financing / Debt! [#permalink]
08 Sep 2010, 11:59
johnstan wrote: Just following up on this thread - I applied to Prodigy for a loan some time back (in June - but they didn't process the 11'D apps until mid-July) and had my loan accepted. In terms of the questions they ask personal referees, I don't think they actually contacted anyone! They were really easy to deal with, and got the loan sorted very quickly once the decision had been made (around July 26th). Hey johnstan Thanks for the info. Could you also tell please how big (approx) the amount was and what interest they're going to charge? (That may be a too personal question for you, I'm sorry if it is so) Thanks in advance Andrey
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