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International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates



IMO E
as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates; correct usage of sentence

Originally posted by Archit3110 on 21 Mar 2019, 00:02.
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+1 for (E), with shuvodip04 for the exact same reasons...
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Bunuel wrote:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates


Financially successful" wrong idiom to use...

A , C , E are left.

Like X, Y ...C is wrong becoause "like" is followed by clause...

In A two independent clauses ( " International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters " and " the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact" ) are being joined by a comma. So A is wrong.

E is left . E is correct.
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Bunuel wrote:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates


The only option that makes sense is "E", as it has the right structure. Its kind of funny cause I don't think I need to elaborate, as some structures are always the best fit.
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Can experts please help understand the usage of "for example" in GMAT?
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Bunuel wrote:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates


Correct Answer: E

A: Run-on (each clause has a subject and verb).
B: Also a run-on. If the comma after disasters were a semi-colon, B would be acceptable.
C: "Like" is being used here, incorrectly, as "as" (meaning, effectively, "for example").
D: Wordy, and "a fact" is not an ideal construction (when "as" works perfectly fine). Further, compared to E, D names the Olympic Games as evidence, while E names the financial success of those games as evidence.
E: Correct
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Bunuel wrote:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates


Answer choice analysis:-

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact -Two indepencdent clauses are joined by a comma, that-here is used to refer tp the entire clause "International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters" .
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful - The 1992 Olympic Games is singular, for example can't be used as a conjunction
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates like can't be followed by a clause to present examples
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful The 1992 Olympic Games is a single event an is singular .use of were is incorrect
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates- gives a reason for the why international sporting events need not be financial disasters.Correct

IMO E


International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, is not a fact but a opinion. Therefore D is wrong
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Hopefully this question is very old, or else I dont approve of the present tense "demonstrates" for an event that took place 30 years ago.

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Hopefully this question is very old, or else I dont approve of the present tense "demonstrates" for an event that took place 30 years ago.


"Demonstrates" is perfectly correct here, because the sentence is saying that the example, which occurred in the past, still demonstrates something right now. If you use "demonstrated" instead, the sentence is still more or less fine, but it then says "at the time the 1992 Games happened, they demonstrated ..." and it becomes a bit ambiguous whether the 1992 Games still demonstrate that games can succeed, or if that was only true back in 1992 and might no longer be true.

And if you consider a sentence like this:

The 80-ton titanosaur illustrates that reptiles can grow to enormous size.

then I now can't really see how you could change the verb to "illustrated" (without changing the meaning to something the sentence probably doesn't intend), even though dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years.
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Bambi2021 wrote:
Hopefully this question is very old, or else I dont approve of the present tense "demonstrates" for an event that took place 30 years ago.


"Demonstrates" is perfectly correct here, because the sentence is saying that the example, which occurred in the past, still demonstrates something right now. If you use "demonstrated" instead, the sentence is still more or less fine, but it then says "at the time the 1992 Games happened, they demonstrated ..." and it becomes a bit ambiguous whether the 1992 Games still demonstrate that games can succeed, or if that was only true back in 1992 and might no longer be true.

And if you consider a sentence like this:

The 80-ton titanosaur illustrates that reptiles can grow to enormous size.

then I now can't really see how you could change the verb to "illustrated" (without changing the meaning to something the sentence probably doesn't intend), even though dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years.

I sort of totally agree with you. Its just that, even with the Titanosaur, its no longer a good example because reptiles cant grow to such size anymore. It would be better if we said: "The Titanosaur illustrates that reptiles could once grow to enormous size."

And I have similar doubts for the olympic games. I just feel that, if 30 years have passed with tons of international sporting events in between, we need a more recent example to justify the argument that they need not be fiscal disasters. Its a subtle and maybe uncalled for doubt of mine but Im nevertheless a little uncomfortable with the present tense and I dont like the fact that such likely uncalled for doubts make me choose the wrong answer.

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International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates


Hi VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun

What is the role played by "as" in choice E?
I am confused over whether it is used as a comparison term or used to mention a reason.
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Hi VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun

What is the role played by "as" in choice E?
I am confused over whether it is used as a comparison term or used to mention a reason.

Hi thereisaFire,

In "as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates", as is a conjunction. This kind of as helps us introduce information about some other statement in the sentence. We can usually replace it with ~ "the way that", so option E is a little bit like this:

1. International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters (the way that the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates).
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thereisaFire wrote:
Hi VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun

What is the role played by "as" in choice E?
I am confused over whether it is used as a comparison term or used to mention a reason.

Hi thereisaFire,

In "as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates", as is a conjunction. This kind of as helps us introduce information about some other statement in the sentence. We can usually replace it with ~ "the way that", so option E is a little bit like this:

1. International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters (the way that the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates).


Hi AjiteshArun

I understand that "as" is used for comparison. (We get the same meaning by replacing it with "the way that")

So, generally we state the element we are comparing immediately after the comparison phrase
As an Olympian athlete does, Sam completed the 100m race in 10 seconds. (Sam is compared to Olympian athlete)

Whereas choice E states:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates.

We can rephrase the sentence as following:
As the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates, international sporting events need not be fiscal disasters.

Financial success is compared to "sporting events" rather it should have been compared to "fiscal disasters"

Quote:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters (the way that the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates).

Even in the aforementioned statement, I get a sense of comparison between "financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games" and "International sporting events"
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So, generally we state the element we are comparing immediately after the comparison phrase

Hi thereisaFire,

I don't think there is any such rule. To be clear, I'm not saying that it's wrong. All I'm saying is that I have never come across anything like this. For example, the following sentence sounds fine to me:

1. As Euclid proved in his work Elements (Book IX, Proposition 20), there are infinitely many primes. (adapted from Wikipedia)

There's really no need to check Euclid and there or infinitely many primes.
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Hi AjiteshArun

Thanks for the quick response.

I think it would be more helpful, if we could see this behaviour in any official question.

Please post if you have come across any. Would definitely be useful in cementing the concepts.
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Quote:
International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact.

(A) the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that fact
(B) for example, the 1992 Olympic Games were financially successful
(C) like the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(D) a fact demonstrated by the 1992 Olympic Games, which were financially successful
(E) as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates


Hi VeritasKarishma AjiteshArun

What is the role played by "as" in choice E?
I am confused over whether it is used as a comparison term or used to mention a reason.


There is no comparison here. This is what the sentence tells us:

The financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates that international sporting events need not be fiscal disasters.
(Focus is on the Olympic Games)

International sporting events need not be fiscal disasters, as the financial success of the 1992 Olympic Games demonstrates
(Focus in on the fact)

"as" is used to join the two parts. When you say "A demonstrates B" there is no comparison between A and B.
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