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Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 08:35
Hi Guys,

I want to tell you the situation first.

I am a Cost & Management Accountant in Pakistan. This is the highest professional accountancy degree of Pakistan along with Chartered Accountancy. We have no GPA score type thing in our result package, even the marks are not known to the students. Same is the case with the same institutes of neighbouring countries of subcontinent.

Now my question is will the "without GPA degree" effect my chances at various business schools specially in UK??? Is it a pre-requisite??
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 08:38
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Hi Guys,

I want to tell you the situation first.

I am a Cost & Management Accountant in Pakistan. This is the highest professional accountancy degree of Pakistan along with Chartered Accountancy. We have no GPA score type thing in our result package, even the marks are not known to the students. Same is the case with the same institutes of neighbouring countries of subcontinent.

Now my question is will the "without GPA degree" effect my chances at various business schools specially in UK??? Is it a pre-requisite??


do you at least have class ranking of some sort? Something that can show you are better than others?
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 08:43
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No rankings, no standings!! A qualification degree with no marks!! then a membership of the Institute
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 08:48
Hussain, you might want to write to your target schools and check with them.
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 08:59
Anyone must have the knowhow on this issue??? This can be a big issue for me guys in upcoming days!!
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 09:12
You are right, this could be a major issue for you and you have to try to resolve it, probably with some of your fellow countrymen, as soon as possible. You don't come from the heavily underrepresented region, I'm sure there are lot of Pakistanis at business schools, so you might consult with some of them. If that is regular practice in Pakistan, I'm sure that business schools will have known for it, beleive me - they are much better informed me of foreign universities than we think.

Maybe it will be sufficient to explain it in the optional essay, but before you write one - check with somebody who is already in b-shool, especially with somebody who attends one of your target schoools.
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 09:18
The problem is that no Charterd Accountant (as per my known persons circle) has decided to join a business school. This is something very disturbing for me.

I will check this out and will let you all know the final outcome.

But one thing is for sure done,,, if GPA is prerequisite then I will get an MBA in my home country first (with GPA marks) and then apply again, you dammn (GMAT) I will let you go so easilly!!

Pray for me to have a positive response from business schools!! :(
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 09:21
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The problem is that no Charterd Accountant (as per my known persons circle) has decided to join a business school. This is something very disturbing for me.

I will check this out and will let you all know the final outcome.

But one thing is for sure done,,, if GPA is prerequisite then I will get an MBA in my home country first (with GPA marks) and then apply again, you dammn (GMAT) I will let you go so easilly!!

Pray for me to have a positive response from business schools!! :(


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No rankings, no standings!! A qualification degree with no marks!! then a membership of the Institute


hmmm... how good is the school you got the degree from? If your school has a rank - like "top X in pakistan" or something to compare to maybe it will help? I guess if it is the highest degree you can get it might be equivalent to a PHD? If it is like a PHD then it is another thing colleges can compare to since at least in america you pretty much cant graduate Masters with <3.0 and i read some schools you need >3.2 for PHD....

I would really try to call those schools up and ask because you will be spending money and time on an MBA you might not need in Pakistan
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 09:26
First try to get in contact with some student in b-school abroad. Maybe you should try to find some Pakistanis in this forum. After that writte to schools and see what is going on.

If you decide to pursue Master degree with GPA scale, avoid MBA because schools definitely don't look favourable to candidates who already have MBA even from their home country. Instead, find some solid MSc program in Pakistan.

Before all this actions, you should look at Stanford GSBs website. They have some useful information overthere because they have listed by countries which degree is acceptable. Although Stanford is not in your focus, you might find some explanations on their website that might be useful for your communication with schools and students.

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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 09:28
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Thanks a lot buddy!! The institute is number 1 in my country for the said degreee, but who know!!??...

But still thanks for the hope!! I will inform you as welll what Judge & LBS think of this!!!
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 26 Jun 2009, 09:33
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First try to get in contact with some student in b-school abroad. Maybe you should try to find some Pakistanis in this forum. After that writte to schools and see what is going on.

If you decide to pursue Master degree with GPA scale, avoid MBA because schools definitely don't look favourable to candidates who already have MBA even from their home country. Instead, find some solid MSc program in Pakistan.

Before all this actions, you should look at Stanford GSBs website. They have some useful information overthere because they have listed by countries which degree is acceptable. Although Stanford is not in your focus, you might find some explanations on their website that might be useful for your communication with schools and students.

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Thanks a lot!!! Stanford check is a good option. Thanks for MSc advice as well!! :)
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The reason why Cost & Management accounting qualifications don't have a GPA is because it's a professional qualification and not a degree program, just like the CFA (Chartered Financial Analyst) qualification, which doesn't have any GPA.

Hussain, do you have an undergraduate degree?
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@Ace: Yes boss, I have an undergraduate degree in Mathematics & Physics. This is called Bachelor of Science!!

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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 00:36
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In that case you're good since I'm sure you must have received grades for that.
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 02:37
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In that case you're good since I'm sure you must have received grades for that.


Yes boss, that degree have the grades. I have written the query to LBS, and will also consult Judge.

I have searched the Stanford website for the list of institutes against every country but couldn't find anything. If you have the link then kindly do share it with me. Thanks!!! :)
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 03:21
Hussain, I'm not aware of any such list but I know that an undergraduate degree is the only degree requirement for admission.

Most American B schools require the equivalent of a 4 year undergraduate degree from international applicants. So, for instance, if a person has foreign degrees from a three year undergrad college and a one year masters program, that would count as an equivalent to a 4 year undergraduate degree. I think it's best to check with your target schools directly.

European business schools are a little bit more flexible in their admission requirements. For example, LBS and INSEAD even waive the degree requirement in certain circumstances. If you plan to apply to LBS and Judge, then I don't think you'll have any problem at all. This is the link to the LBS website which states admission requirements: http://www.london.edu/programmes/mba/applying.html
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 03:30
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Hussain, I'm not aware of any such list but I know that an undergraduate degree is the only degree requirement for admission.

Most American B schools require the equivalent of a 4 year undergraduate degree from international applicants. So, for instance, if a person has foreign degrees from a three year undergrad college and a one year masters program, that would count as an equivalent to a 4 year undergraduate degree. I think it's best to check with your target schools directly.

European business schools are a little bit more flexible in their admission requirements. For example, LBS and INSEAD even waive the degree requirement in certain circumstances. If you plan to apply to LBS and Judge, then I don't think you'll have any problem at all. This is the link to the LBS website which states admission requirements: http://www.london.edu/programmes/mba/applying.html


Thanks for the infor ace!!

I wrongly asked you the stanford thing, actually I intended to ask this question to Pathfinder, as he mentioned that reference. :)
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 03:37
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Re: Is GPA essential for business school admission!!?? [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2009, 03:44
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I hope you guys wouldn't mind if I move you to MBA forum?


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That's probably a good idea.
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