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Re: Is integer x prime? [#permalink]
07 Mar 2010, 10:02

kp1811 wrote:

jeeteshsingh wrote:

Is Integer x prime? 1. x^2-3 is an even number 2. x+2 is an odd number

Please explain

E...

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Re: Is integer x prime? [#permalink]
07 Mar 2010, 10:26

kp1811 wrote:

jeeteshsingh wrote:

will try to make it more clearer.....

stmnt1) x^2 - 3 is even

let x = 3 (prime) then 3^2 - 3 = 6 even let x =9 (non prime) then 9^2 - 3 = 78 even hence insuff

stmnt2) x+2 is odd let x = 3 (prime) then 3 + 2 = 5 odd let x =9 (non prime) then 9 + 2 = 11 odd hence insuff

even together they don't suffice. Hence E

Some how I dont get this approach as you use the ques to prove the statement below. This question is from PR 1012 and I see the same solution there which isnt convincing for me.

My approach is as follows:

Given x is an integer. Ques is x prime?

S1: x^2 - 3 = even x^2 - 3 = 2m where m is an integer x = sqrt(2m + 3) where m is >= 0 as you cannot have - ve sqrt.

This gives x = \sqrt{3},\sqrt{5},\sqrt{7},3,\sqrt{11},\sqrt{13},\sqrt{15},\sqrt{17},\sqrt{19},\sqrt{21},\sqrt{23},5,\sqrt{27},\sqrt{29},..... Since it is given that x is an integer we get only 3, 5, 7..... which are all prime. Hence SUFF.

S2: x + 2 is odd x + 2 = 2k + 1 where k is an integer x = 2k - 1 Therefore x = ....-7,-5,-3,-1,1,3,5,7,9,11... which means all odd numbers and hence not necessarily be prime. Therefore NOT SUFF.

Hence answer is A....!

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Re: Is integer x prime? [#permalink]
07 Mar 2010, 10:34

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jeeteshsingh wrote:

kp1811 wrote:

jeeteshsingh wrote:

will try to make it more clearer.....

stmnt1) x^2 - 3 is even

let x = 3 (prime) then 3^2 - 3 = 6 even let x =9 (non prime) then 9^2 - 3 = 78 even hence insuff

stmnt2) x+2 is odd let x = 3 (prime) then 3 + 2 = 5 odd let x =9 (non prime) then 9 + 2 = 11 odd hence insuff

even together they don't suffice. Hence E

Some how I dont get this approach as you use the ques to prove the statement below. This question is from PR 1012 and I see the same solution there which isnt convincing for me.

My approach is as follows:

Given x is an integer. Ques is x prime?

S1: x^2 - 3 = even x^2 - 3 = 2m where m is an integer x = sqrt(2m + 3) where m is >= 0 as you cannot have - ve sqrt.

This gives x = \sqrt{3},\sqrt{5},\sqrt{7},3,\sqrt{11},\sqrt{13},\sqrt{15},\sqrt{17},\sqrt{19},\sqrt{21},\sqrt{23},5,\sqrt{27},\sqrt{29},..... Since it is given that x is an integer we get only 3, 5, 7..... which are all prime. Hence SUFF.

S2: x + 2 is odd x + 2 = 2k + 1 where k is an integer x = 2k - 1 Therefore x = ....-7,-5,-3,-1,1,3,5,7,9,11... which means all odd numbers and hence not necessarily be prime. Therefore NOT SUFF.

Hence answer is A....!

Can someone highlight what is wrong in my approach!

in highlighted part after 3,5, 7 .... 9 will come [ for m = 39] which is non prime

Re: Is integer x prime? [#permalink]
07 Mar 2010, 10:39

kp1811 wrote:

jeeteshsingh wrote:

Some how I dont get this approach as you use the ques to prove the statement below. This question is from PR 1012 and I see the same solution there which isnt convincing for me.

My approach is as follows:

Given x is an integer. Ques is x prime?

S1: x^2 - 3 = even x^2 - 3 = 2m where m is an integer x = sqrt(2m + 3) where m is >= 0 as you cannot have - ve sqrt.

This gives x = \sqrt{3},\sqrt{5},\sqrt{7},3,\sqrt{11},\sqrt{13},\sqrt{15},\sqrt{17},\sqrt{19},\sqrt{21},\sqrt{23},5,\sqrt{27},\sqrt{29},..... Since it is given that x is an integer we get only 3, 5, 7..... which are all prime. Hence SUFF.

S2: x + 2 is odd x + 2 = 2k + 1 where k is an integer x = 2k - 1 Therefore x = ....-7,-5,-3,-1,1,3,5,7,9,11... which means all odd numbers and hence not necessarily be prime. Therefore NOT SUFF.

Hence answer is A....!

Can someone highlight what is wrong in my approach!

in highlighted part after 3,5, 7 .... 9 will come [ for m = 39] which is non prime

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Re: Is integer x prime? [#permalink]
07 Jan 2014, 23:16

jeeteshsingh wrote:

kp1811 wrote:

jeeteshsingh wrote:

will try to make it more clearer.....

stmnt1) x^2 - 3 is even

let x = 3 (prime) then 3^2 - 3 = 6 even let x =9 (non prime) then 9^2 - 3 = 78 even hence insuff

stmnt2) x+2 is odd let x = 3 (prime) then 3 + 2 = 5 odd let x =9 (non prime) then 9 + 2 = 11 odd hence insuff

even together they don't suffice. Hence E

Some how I dont get this approach as you use the ques to prove the statement below. This question is from PR 1012 and I see the same solution there which isnt convincing for me.

My approach is as follows:

Given x is an integer. Ques is x prime?

S1: x^2 - 3 = even x^2 - 3 = 2m where m is an integer x = sqrt(2m + 3) where m is >= 0 as you cannot have - ve sqrt.

This gives x = \sqrt{3},\sqrt{5},\sqrt{7},3,\sqrt{11},\sqrt{13},\sqrt{15},\sqrt{17},\sqrt{19},\sqrt{21},\sqrt{23},5,\sqrt{27},\sqrt{29},..... Since it is given that x is an integer we get only 3, 5, 7..... which are all prime. Hence SUFF.

S2: x + 2 is odd x + 2 = 2k + 1 where k is an integer x = 2k - 1 Therefore x = ....-7,-5,-3,-1,1,3,5,7,9,11... which means all odd numbers and hence not necessarily be prime. Therefore NOT SUFF.

Hence answer is A....!

Can someone highlight what is wrong in my approach!

Hello, Just a small thing You say "x = sqrt(2m + 3) where m is >= 0 as you cannot have - ve sqrt." but your m can be -1, still square root would be +ve i.e 1; now you have to add x=1 to your list :1,3,5,7 etc. As 1 is not prime. A becomes insufficient.

Re: Is integer x prime? [#permalink]
02 Feb 2014, 02:16

Stmt 1: x^2-3 is even simply means x is odd integer. Now x being odd is not sufficient for it to be prime. INSUFF Stm2: x+2 is odd means x is odd integer. Therefore stmt 1 & 2 are same. INSUFF

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