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Is m + z > 0? (1) m - 3z > 0 (2) 4z - m > 0 [#permalink]
11 Feb 2009, 17:20
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Is m + z > 0?
(1) m - 3z > 0
(2) 4z - m > 0
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
11 Feb 2009, 20:57
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I will go with C.
From clue 1, m-3z > 0 here m, z can be positive or negative. So cannot say whether m + z > 0. Hence Insufficient.
From clue 2, 4z-m > 0, here m, z can be positive or negative. So cannot say whether m + z > 0. Hence Insufficient.
Cosider both the clues.
m-3z>0--->Ine1 4z-m>0 --->ine2
Add both the inequalities, z > 0. m-3z > 0 ==> m > 3z. Since Z is positive m also should be positive.
So we can say that m+z > o. Hence sufficient.
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
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It is also possible to solve it by drawing: 1. Let's draw our statement using two colors: red (statement is false) and green (statement is true). We will have two color cake: Attachment:
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2. Now, cut a bit of the cake by first condition: Attachment:
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3. cut a bit of the cake by second condition: Attachment:
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4. Now, use both conditions: Attachment:
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So, C is obvious after drawing as the statement is only true.
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
12 Feb 2009, 09:27
great pictures.!!!! good alternative..
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
12 Feb 2009, 10:02
OA is C. I am not familiar with this picture method. I ended up doing addition of inequalities and got the answer on the test and I probably spent 2-3 min on this question.
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
12 Nov 2009, 20:01
1) m>3Z not sufficient; 2) m<4Z not sufficient; 1) and 2) adding together => Z>0 -> m+Z >0 C
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
19 Nov 2009, 21:05
C
I also used the adding two inequalities method. Have to learn the graphical approach...
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Re: DS: From GMATPREP [#permalink]
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Q : m + z > 0 ?
1. m-3z > 0
m+z > 4z
For this to be sufficient, z > 0 should be known, but we don't know that, hence insufficient.
2. 4z-m > 0
m+z > 5/4 m OR 4z > m
For this to be sufficient, m > 0 should be known, but we don't know that, hence insufficient.
Combining 1 & 2 :
m+z > 4z > m
m+z-m > 4z-m > m-m
z > 4z-m > 0. This solves our question in 1. Hence sufficient. => C
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Re: Is m + z > 0? (1) m - 3z > 0 (2) 4z - m > 0 [#permalink]
17 Jan 2012, 19:41
I am learning graphical approach..is it useful for all the Inequalities Q?
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Re: Is m + z > 0? (1) m - 3z > 0 (2) 4z - m > 0 [#permalink]
17 Jan 2012, 20:08
Is m + z > 0?
(1) m - 3z > 0
m > 3z
Not sufficient
(2) 4z - m >0
4z > m
Not sufficient
1 + 2
z > 0
From 1 m > 3z
so both m and z are positive, hence their sum is positive.
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Re: Is m + z > 0? (1) m - 3z > 0 (2) 4z - m > 0
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