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This one looks so easy you might think there is a trap; definitely C.
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Found this question interesting cause my mind wanted to complicate it...Might sound dumb but is it a given in Math to assume that MNOP is in order? Wouldn't it change things if M and N were on a diagonal?


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This one looks so easy you might think there is a trap; definitely C.


So true, I was wondering what would the diagram look like for statement 1...
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It does help, thank you; Visual aids like this one will be very helpful under stressful and timed conditions when one might momentarily confuse a general quadrilateral with a square specifically. Remembering this drawings will definitely help!
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Is quadrilateral MNOP a square?

(1) MN = NO = OP
(2) Angle N and angle O are right angles



Stupid, annoying question (sorry, I just had to vent):

1) tells us the lengths of three sides but this theoretically still could leave us with a fourth side that is longer/shorter than the rest, so insufficient

2) Tells us that our quadrilateral is either a rectangle or a square, insufficient.

1 + 2 tell us that our quadrilateral is a square, because 2) restricts the possible shapes that 1) can take, and combining the two tells us how long the fourth side in 1) is, so sufficient.

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Found this question interesting cause my mind wanted to complicate it...Might sound dumb but is it a given in Math to assume that MNOP is in order? Wouldn't it change things if M and N were on a diagonal?



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raviraaj wrote:
Found this question interesting cause my mind wanted to complicate it...Might sound dumb but is it a given in Math to assume that MNOP is in order? Wouldn't it change things if M and N were on a diagonal?


Hi raviraaj,

We always read the vertices in the order (Clockwise or Anticlockwise) of their placements and don't consider them random vertices.


... And no question is dumb question it's more of exposure and less of competence that makes a difference among the level the questions test takers ask. SO don't be shy in asking any question however dumb you feel about that question.
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Is it correct that, according to Statement 1), it could be a rhombus?

No. No necessary as the 4th side of the quadrilateral need not be equal to other three.

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Is quadrilateral MNOP a square?

(1) MN = NO = OP
(2) Angle N and angle O are right angles


Bunuel how do we know from statement 2 that MNOP must be a rectangle or square?

Why can we not have a right trapezoid based on statement 2?
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fozzzy wrote:
Is quadrilateral MNOP a square?

(1) MN = NO = OP
(2) Angle N and angle O are right angles


Bunuel how do we know from statement 2 that MNOP must be a rectangle or square?

Why can we not have a right trapezoid based on statement 2?


It does not have to be a square or a rectangle, it might also be a right trapezoid.
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Hi guys,

Is it correct that, according to Statement 1), it could be a rhombus?
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Hi ghnlrug

A rhombus becomes a square if the angles are 90 degree. What you wrote is true if the fourth side is also equal. It could be a rhombus.

For more on the theory check this link

https://gmatclub.com/forum/math-polygons-87336.html

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ghnlrug wrote:
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Is it correct that, according to Statement 1), it could be a rhombus?

No. No necessary as the 4th side of the quadrilateral need not be equal to other three.

Posted from my mobile device


So, in other words, YES
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Hi, could this be a complex quad (with intersecting sides)?
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Nunuboy1994 wrote:
fozzzy wrote:
Is quadrilateral MNOP a square?

(1) MN = NO = OP
(2) Angle N and angle O are right angles


Bunuel how do we know from statement 2 that MNOP must be a rectangle or square?

Why can we not have a right trapezoid based on statement 2?


It does not have to be a square or a rectangle, it might also be a right trapezoid.


Hi Bunuel,
I didn't understand that if the stem says it's a quadrilateral and not a parallelogram than how can we say that if two angles are 90 and three sides are equal, it's a square.

I'm confused with that. Can you please explain in detail.

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I'm confused with that. Can you please explain in detail.

Vinay


We know the 4 sides are in the order: M, N, O, P.

IF M and O are right angles, along with statement 1, we can conclude MNOP is a square. Without statement 1, it's possible that MNOP is a rectangle.
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