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Is the number of seconds required to travel d1 feet at r1 feet per second greater than the number of seconds required to travel d2 feet at r2 feet per second?

(1) d1 is 30 greater than d2.
(2) r1 is 30 greater than r2.



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The question is based on the concept discussed here:
https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2011/0 ... round-one/

Question: Is \(\frac{d1}{r1} > \frac{d2}{r2}\)?

Each statement alone is not sufficient. Statement 1 doesn't give any data on rates and statement 2 doesn't give any data on distance.

Using both,
d1 = d2 + 30
r1 = r2 + 30

Question: Is \(\frac{d2+30}{r2+30} > \frac{d2}{r2}\)?

What is the number property related to adding same numbers to both numerator and denominator?

Say 3/4. Add 1 to both you get 4/5. Add 2 to both you get 5/6. It increases the fraction.

Say 5/4. Add 1 to both you get 6/5. Add 2 to both you get 7/6. It decreases the fraction.

So this depends on whether \(\frac{d2}{r2}\) is less than 1 or greater than 1.

Hence until and unless we know the value of d1/r1, we cannot answer this question.

Answer (E)
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so we have that \(\frac{d_2+30}{r_2+30}>\frac{d_2}{r_2}\) holds true when \(r_2>d_2\), but we don't know whether that's true


This is the key property to remember. Thank you Bunuel! +1
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Clearly either of the statements are not sufficient.

Lets look at (1) + (2) case

d1=30+d2
r1=r2+30
t1 = d1/r1 and t2=d2/r2
t1 = (30+d2)/(30+r1)

Lets consider two cases, lets take d2/r2 = 1/2 and 2/1

if t2=d2/r2 = 1/2

Then, t1 = 31/32 =0.9 something that is greater then 1/2 i.e. 0.5

if t2=d2/r2 = 2/1

Then, t1 = 32/31 =0.1 something that is less than 2/1 i.e. 2

Hence we cant say => Not sufficient

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Hi

For this question, r1, r2 are positive
r1>r2+30
so 1/r1<1/r2
Thus, d1/r1>d2/r2.

I am not quite sure what I did wrong here. Help!
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Your conclusion is not right. Also we have:

(1) \(d_1=d_2+30\);
(2) \(r_1=r_2+30\);

Not r1>r2+30 as you wrote.

Please, see my solution above (I've just merged the topics, so it's new there) and ask if anything remains unclear.

Hope it helps.
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Hi

For this question, r1, r2 are positive
r1>r2+30
so 1/r1<1/r2
Thus, d1/r1>d2/r2.

I am not quite sure what I did wrong here. Help!
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Oh thank you. I just created a brand new problem. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Re: Is the number of seconds required to travel d1 feet at r1 [#permalink]
In this question I do have have a doubt could anyone help me and correct me if I'm wrong:
here Q: t1=d1/r1> t2=d2/r2

condtions : statement 1: d1=d2+30
statement 2: r1=r2+30

Individually insufficient, but why cant ans be C

plugging the values:

case1: d2=30 and r2=10==> d1=60 and r2=40==>t1=60/40=1.5 sec and t2=30/10=3sec==>1.5sec<3 sec SUFF

case 2: d2=20 and r2=5==> d1=50 and r2=35==>t1=20/5=4 sec and t2=50/35=1.4sec==>4 sec>1.4 sec SUFF

Because it gives ans yes/no

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Is the number of seconds required to travel d1 feet at r1 feet per second greater than the number of seconds required to travel d2 feet at r2 feet per second?

(1) d1 is 30 greater than d2.

(2) r1 is 30 greater than r2.

OPEN DISCUSSION OF THIS QUESTION IS HERE: https://gmatclub.com/forum/is-the-number ... 43694.html

Is the number of seconds required to travel d1 feet at r1 feet per second greater than the number of seconds required to travel d2 feet at r2 feet per second?

(1) d1 is 30 greater than d2.
(2) r1 is 30 greater than r2.



Statements 1 and 2 ALONE are surely not sufficient to answer the question.

However i think BOTH statements TOGETHER are sufficient

From Statement 1:

(d2 + 30)/r1

From Statement 2:

d1 / (r2 + 30)

From Statement 1 and 2:

(d2 + 30) / (r2 + 30)

Now if anyone has done Manhattan, refer Page 28 FDP which says, ''increasing BOTH the numerator and the denominator by THE SAME VALUE brings the fraction closer to 1."

It means it increases the original value, right.

So if i have to decide which is greater, (1) (d2 + 30) / (r2 + 30) or (2) d2 / r2, obviously it has to be (1).

OG explaination says Statement (1) and (2) TOGETHER are not sufficient.

What's yours view guys??


Is the number of seconds required to travel d1 feet at r1 feet per second greater than the number of seconds required to travel d2 feet at r2 feet per second?

We need to find whether \(\frac{d_1}{r_1}>\frac{d_2}{r_2}\).

(1) d1 is 30 greater than d2 --> \(d_1=d_2+30\). Nothing about the rates. Not sufficient.
(2) r1 is 30 greater than r2 --> \(r_1=r_2+30\). Nothing about the distances. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) The question becomes whether \(\frac{d_2+30}{r_2+30}>\frac{d_2}{r_2}\). Now, if \(d_2=r_2\), then \(\frac{d_2+30}{r_2+30}=\frac{d_2}{r_2}\), thus in this case the answer would be NO but if \(d_2=1\) and \(r_2=2\), then in this case \(\frac{d_2+30}{r_2+30}=\frac{31}{32}>\frac{1}{2}=\frac{d_2}{r_2}\), thus in this case the answer would be YES. Not sufficient.

Answer: E.

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