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25 Aug 2011, 23:19
ahish wrote:
By the way, I just saw they posted some recommenders selection guidelines on their blog, maybe it can help:
http://blog.vocaz.com/2011/07/choose-yo ... ely-2.html
http://blog.vocaz.com/2011/06/choose-yo ... isely.html

That's great, thanks for the links!
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09 Sep 2011, 22:39
Speaking of recommenders, when you list your recommenders on the application form you have to choose if you waive your right to see the recommendations - why do they ask that? do you think it has any effect on admission chances?
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18 Sep 2011, 23:17
Although waiving your right to see the recommendation gives your recommenders more "freedom" to be honest, I don't think it has any impact on the admission chances. This is just something they have to ask, since otherwise they would have to let you see your recommendations.
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26 Sep 2011, 04:03
You're probably right, but i think it's still better for the applicant to waive his right to see the recs. it shows confidence and honesty.
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02 Oct 2011, 22:24
While we are on that subject, does anyone know which schools allow (or forbid) submitting one additional recommendation letter, in addition to the required two?
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09 Oct 2011, 22:47
As far as I know - NYU, Tuck and Darden for example allow additional rec, while HBS, Stanford, Kellogg and Berkeley for example does not allow additional rec.
Some schools say that if you want to submit one additional rec, this rec should add a different angle and provide new info.
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01 Nov 2011, 01:04
Steve2014 wrote:
As far as I know - NYU, Tuck and Darden for example allow additional rec, while HBS, Stanford, Kellogg and Berkeley for example does not allow additional rec.
Some schools say that if you want to submit one additional rec, this rec should add a different angle and provide new info.

Thanks for sharing, good to know, although it's hard enough to find 2 recommenders, where would I find a third?
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08 Nov 2011, 03:10
Of course it's hard, but don't underestimate the importance of recommendations. if the school allows a 3rd rec, you should definitely use it. try to find someone who can comment on your skills from a different perspective, maybe a client or a peer.
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25 Nov 2011, 01:42
Absolutely, I agree. By the way, does anyone know if the extra rec should answer the same recommender questions as the first two, or is it possible to draft it as a general LOR?
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10 Dec 2011, 23:16
Good question... I guess he can't since the applicant can't see the recommendation.
Unless the school publishes the questions on the website, the third recommender will not have the questions, and he can only write a general letter.
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24 Dec 2011, 01:36
A general LOR is not a bad idea, and if you can ask your recommender to make it look like he initiated it that's even better. Also, the letter can generally address some of the tipical recommender questions, like strengths and weaknesses, the applicant's managerial skills and potential for success.
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03 Jan 2012, 01:27
Right, since recommender questions are usually similar in most schools, so the general LOR can address the main aspects of the candidate.
The problem with an extra rec is that it can not always be submitted throught the online application. Some schools allow it to be sent by email, but what about the rest? any ideas?
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12 Jan 2012, 04:19
They actually address this issue in a separate page, see here:
http://www.vocaz.com/emails/emailExtraRecs.htm
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23 Jan 2012, 06:22
Leo24 wrote:
They actually address this issue in a separate page, see here:
http://www.vocaz.com/emails/emailExtraRecs.htm

So they specifically say regarding the extra rec:

"If you send the extra recommendation in hard copy, and if you didn't see the actual letter that the recommender sent (while providing the recommender with a draft/example, you are not supposed to see what the recommender actually sent), ask the recommender to seal the envelope (for example, with a scotch tape or a sticker) and sign across the seal."

It makes sense to do this if the school doesn't allow you to register more than 2 recommenders in the online system.
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04 Feb 2012, 00:27
Regarding the extra rec, I don't think you should overflow the admission committee with too many materials, they already have a lot to read. Maybe wait with it until you are waitlisted, and then the extra rec might be more useful.
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13 Feb 2012, 22:36
Great tip, I agree - too much materials can actually work against you.
We have to carefully stick to the school instructions and be very smart about any unusual step. Same goes for the optional essay, you should write it only if you have something important to add.
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13 Feb 2012, 23:30
My suggestion would be that you start applying early to the your desired schools.
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