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Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate?

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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 06 Apr 2012, 17:07
I'm a lurker on this forum, but couldn't help responding to this post.

I was asked to use Vocaz tool about a year ago, when I was a newbie and knew little to nothing about application process. The output showed that my profile wasn't good enough even for regional schools and as stupid as it sounds, it did bring my confidence down (if only for a week). This year, I've admission offers from two elite schools.
Vocaz tool is extremely misleading and unreliable. I'd highly recommend against using it or even 'checking it out'.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 20 Apr 2012, 00:40
Congratulations on your admission!
Could you share what was the prediction/score you got? and what helped you gain admission? were there elements on your profile which the tool didn't take into consideration?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 28 Apr 2012, 22:52
Speaking of elements which the tool didn't take into consideration, I think the interview is a big factor. It is not right to look at this like the application can get you admitted instantly, you have to be good enough to get invited to an interview, and then do well on the interview which is mainly up to you!
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 16 May 2012, 09:24
I agree, it's an important element but a tough one to score... anyway, I think most candidates invited to an interview are eventually admitted. And it's not entirely true that the interview is completely up to you, you can do some preparation and practice.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 24 May 2012, 07:40
Does anyone understand their complicated formula for calculating Harvard score adjustment?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2012, 07:23
No, but anyone who can understand it can probably get into HBS :)
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 11 Jun 2012, 21:56
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If it helps, I just ran this test with my profile. It said I should not get into Michigan... but I will be attending Ross in the fall.


Interesting! thanks for your input. What made the difference in your opinion? are there any strong sides in your profile the got you admitted but the calculator didn't give you enough credit for?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 13 Jun 2012, 13:46
Same, I was 10 points off of Johnson but am matriculating next fall. This whole process is too hard to try and make cookie cutter like this.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 21 Jun 2012, 07:23
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Same, I was 10 points off of Johnson but am matriculating next fall. This whole process is too hard to try and make cookie cutter like this.


I agree it's not science and accurate prediction is impossible. Can you share what do you think made the difference in your case? what are the main points the tool was wrong about?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 23 Jun 2012, 11:20
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Same, I was 10 points off of Johnson but am matriculating next fall. This whole process is too hard to try and make cookie cutter like this.


I agree it's not science and accurate prediction is impossible. Can you share what do you think made the difference in your case? what are the main points the tool was wrong about?

It's hard to say really. I think my international work experience as a US candidate helped. I think I had a really good interview (which this does not account for). And most importantly I was passionate about Cornell and I let it show. While it doesn't always work, if you show the Adcom some love, they will be more likely to show you love.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 24 Jun 2012, 18:32
Any engineers with a background in BME have success with Vocaz? It seems like most engineers are in the IT or ME field, I dont see to many ChemE or BME on these boards.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 24 Jun 2012, 18:50
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Any engineers with a background in BME have success with Vocaz? It seems like most engineers are in the IT or ME field, I dont see to many ChemE or BME on these boards.

I'm a ChemE. :)
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 03 Jul 2012, 07:02
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It's hard to say really. I think my international work experience as a US candidate helped. I think I had a really good interview (which this does not account for). And most importantly I was passionate about Cornell and I let it show. While it doesn't always work, if you show the Adcom some love, they will be more likely to show you love.


That's brilliant! "just show them some love", so simple :)
You can't put a price on love, and you definitely can't insert it into a statistical tool!
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 10 Jul 2012, 07:46
Speaking of love, some schools ask you which other b-schools you are applying to. Anyone knows if the answer to that question affects admission chances? should I say "I love you so much and therefore not applying to any other school"? :wink:

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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 13 Jul 2012, 04:21
I just did this for entertainment purposes, like you see the horoscopes based on zodiacs & what not, and entertained I was!! :P

This, without the slightest shred of doubt, is the most stupid algorithm ever created! As per this, I shouldn't have even entertained thoughts of applying to Chicago Booth, it was that much of a stretch!

I would seriously advise everyone not to look at this tool before applying to any school. This is just stupid and might end up demotivating you. You are much better of channelizing your energies and time positively elsewhere.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2012, 07:36
OK, good to know. Can anyone answer my previous question about admitting which other b-schools you are applying to?
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 22 Jul 2012, 07:57
I had answered genuinely that I was applying to three schools. Figured that I didn't have anything to lose..

Not sure if this piece of information is used for qualitative evaluation of a candidate or just for statistical / data mining purposes..I would tend to believe its more of the latter..
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 12 Aug 2012, 07:16
That's what I thought, it wouldn't be fair to ask such question and then use my answer against me.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 22 Aug 2012, 08:59
Who said they should be fair? life isn't fair, and we all know how much b-schools care about yield, so they might not accept you if they think you won't matriculate.
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Re: Engineers - Is the free Vocaz Chances Indication accurate? [#permalink] New post 30 Aug 2012, 07:23
Oh, no... why so pessimistic?
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