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Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2013, 22:25
Hi.. I'm prepping for SC at the moment and read this in a leading business journal, and want to know whether such a representation is correct:

"The board did debate on it and were not pleased with it".

I would have thought that it's wrong and that you could much rather say:

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".
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The board did debate on it and were not pleased with it".

I think here debate is used as a noun so "debate on" is correct.

petrifiedbutstanding wrote:
"The board debated over it and were not pleased with it".

But here debate is used as a verb and so "debated over" is the correct idiom.
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2013, 22:57
petrifiedbutstanding wrote:
Hi.. I'm prepping for SC at the moment and read this in a leading business journal, and want to know whether such a representation is correct:

"The board did debate on it and were not pleased with it".

I would have thought that it's wrong and that you could much rather say:

"The board debated over it and were not pleased with it".


One more mistake which i can see is the agreement in numbers,
It should be was not pleased instead of were not pleased, as board is a singular entity
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 02 Jun 2013, 23:18
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One more mistake which i can see is the agreement in numbers,
It should be was not pleased instead of were not pleased, as board is a singular entity



Thanks. Made that change.

But what about the other question?
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2013, 00:22
petrifiedbutstanding wrote:

"The board did debate on it and were not pleased with it".

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".


the way in which you are rewriting the sentence is also correct, although it changes the meaning of the sentence

"The board did debate on it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence is trying to say that "i assure you, the board did debate and was not pleased"

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence simply says that the board debated over the topic.

Do i make sense?
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2013, 03:00
ankurgupta03 wrote:
petrifiedbutstanding wrote:

"The board did debate on it and were not pleased with it".

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".


the way in which you are rewriting the sentence is also correct, although it changes the meaning of the sentence

"The board did debate on it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence is trying to say that "i assure you, the board did debate and was not pleased"

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence simply says that the board debated over the topic.

Do i make sense?


Yes that's the best way to explain it! The word did helps to give more weight/support to the argument.

"I tried it" vs "I did try it"

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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2013, 03:05
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ankurgupta03 wrote:
petrifiedbutstanding wrote:

"The board did debate on it and were not pleased with it".

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".


the way in which you are rewriting the sentence is also correct, although it changes the meaning of the sentence

"The board did debate on it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence is trying to say that "i assure you, the board did debate and was not pleased"

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence simply says that the board debated over the topic.

Do i make sense?


Yes that's the best way to explain it! The word did helps to give more weight/support to the argument.

"I tried it" vs "I did try it"

Regards, Vishnu



Then as per the idiom "debate over", the sentence should be:

The board did debate on over it and was not pleased with it.

Can you please explain?
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2013, 21:24
ankurgupta03 wrote:
the way in which you are rewriting the sentence is also correct, although it changes the meaning of the sentence

"The board did debate on it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence is trying to say that "i assure you, the board did debate and was not pleased"

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence simply says that the board debated over the topic.

Do i make sense?



Hi guys,

I'm a bit confused. In the quoted piece above, doesn't stmt 2 also say the board wasn't pleased with after they debated over/on?

Can you explain further how did debate makes a big difference?
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2013, 21:25
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Then as per the idiom "debate over", the sentence should be:

The board did debate on over it and was not pleased with it.

Can you please explain?


Also this quote is exactly the other reason why I had this question. I figured debated over is idiomatic.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 03 Jun 2013, 21:56
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ankurgupta03 wrote:
the way in which you are rewriting the sentence is also correct, although it changes the meaning of the sentence

"The board did debate on it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence is trying to say that "i assure you, the board did debate and was not pleased"

"The board debated over it and was not pleased with it".
this sentence simply says that the board debated over the topic.

Do i make sense?



Hi guys,

I'm a bit confused. In the quoted piece above, doesn't stmt 2 also say the board wasn't pleased with after they debated over/on?

Can you explain further how did debate makes a big difference?


Hey,

Let me try :)

First sentence gives you an assurance that the board debated over the topic
Where second sentence simply tells you about it, without any assurance ...

Makes sense?
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Re: Is this form correct? [#permalink] New post 04 Jun 2013, 11:19
Yes.. That finally makes sense! Basically "did debate" is a means of emphasis.. I somehow couldn't see that until you explained it this way.

And I'm sorry for being a pain in the butt.. :)
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Yes.. That finally makes sense! Basically "did debate" is a means of emphasis.. I somehow couldn't see that until you explained it this way.

And I'm sorry for being a pain in the butt.. :)


Hahaha ... its ok :)
Some kudos might ease off the pain :P
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