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Is x negative? (1) x^3(1-x^2) < 0 (2) x^2-1 < 0
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IMO C. 1, is equivalent to x(x-1)(x+1) >0 ( x^2 is always>0 and i have inverted the sign) this gives x>1 and -1<x<0 , thus not sufficient 2, gives -1< x<1 not sufficient. if you combine the result we get -1<x<0 , thus x is negative and thus C. Another way, since we know both are not sufficient individually. 2nd equation gives x^2 -1 <0 => 1- x^2 >0 now in first equation, if its -ve then x^3 must be -ve....thus both taken together sufficient.
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First I go to Stmt 2: Stmt 2 shows that -1<x<1 so x can be negative or positive. Hence no sufficient. Stmt1 not sufficient too!! With the help of stmt 2, if we put the negative value of x, the stmt 1 becomes true!! Hence "C" is the answer in my opinion!!! Posted from my mobile device Posted from my mobile device
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Thanks guys for the quick solution..Heres a question..
For st1, if I take a +ve number that is >=2 the inequality holds true, then why do we need to consider st2?
Look forward to the replies..
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abhi758 wrote: Thanks guys for the quick solution..Heres a question..
For st1, if I take a +ve number that is >=2 the inequality holds true, then why do we need to consider st2?
Look forward to the replies.. Thats wrong approach towards DS question. x>=2 satisfy the equation 1 , what about x = -1/2, that is also satisfying the equation.Then how we can be sure whether x is + or -... sufficiency comes when we are sure this statement as a whole ans the question and there is no other possibility which will be against it,. Before starting another DS question do get this concept, else no use of DS questions. letme know if you got it else i will try to explain in other way.
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Thanks for bringing this to my notice. If you could explain the first st1 working in the solution provided by you: Quote: 1, is equivalent to x(x-1)(x+1)>0 ( x^2 is always>0 and i have inverted the sign)
this gives x>1 and -1<x<0 , thus not sufficient Unable to understand the working for x^3(1-x^2)<0.
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x^3(1-x^2) = x* x^2 * (x^2 -1)* (-1 ) < 0since x^2 >0 , it will not affect the sign x*(x^2-1) * (-1) < 0 => x*(x^2-1) * > 0 when we multiple both sides by -1, > becomes < eg. -1 > -2 , but 1 < 2 => x*(x-1)*(x+1) * > 0
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Thanks gurpreet for your time and patience!
Just a ques on the last part..
After: x(x-1)(x+1)>0 you get => x>1 AND you get => x>-1 OR -1<x AND next would you get => x>0 OR x<0??
This might sound a little basic but really confused with the whole thing..
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IMO E ST 1 both a pos and a neg # satisfiy this equation. Not suf ST 2....samething. Cobined we can't conclude the sign of X also, keep in mind that the ques doesn't states if X is 0 or 1 Posted from my mobile device
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Alternative approach by taking numbers. Statement1: x^3(1-x^2) < 0 From this we can say x <> 0and x <>+1 or -1. Consider x=2 Then the equation results in 8*-3 <0. Satisfy the equation. Consider x= 1/2 then the equation results in 1/8*(3/4) >0. Does not satisfy the equation. Consider x=-2 Then the equation results in -8*-3 >0. Does not satisfy the equation. Consider x= -1/2 then the equation results in -1/8*(3/4) <0.Satisfy the equation. This statement is not sufficient to conclude. Statement2: x^2-1 <0From the statement we can say that x <>=1 or -1Consider x=2 then the equation results in 3 >0. Does not satisfy the equation. Consider x=1/2 then the equation results in -3/4 <0. Satisfy the equation. Consider x=-2 then the equation results in 3 >0. Does not satisfy the equation. Consider x=-1/2 then the equation results in -3/4 <0. Satisfy the equation. This statement alone is not sufficient. Combining both the statements when x is -ve that is -1/2 , it satisfies both the equations. Ans is C.
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1. x^3(1-x^2) <0 x^3- x^5<0 x^3 < x^5 , which mean that x is positive no negative. ( sufficinet).
2. x^2<1
-1 < x < 1
which mean that we do not know exactally wheather it is positive or negative. ( not sufficient).
the answer is A
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abhi758 wrote: Is X negative?
1. x^3(1-x^2) < 0 2. x^2-1 < 0
Please explain your answer.. Is x<0? (1) x^3(1-x^2) < 0Two cases: A. x>0 and 1-x^2<0, which means x<-1 or x>1 --> x>1; B. x<0 and 1-x^2>0, which means -1<x<1 --> -1<x<0. So x^3(1-x^2) < 0 holds true for two ranges of x: x>1 and -1<x<0. If x is in the first range answer to the question is NO, but if x is in the second range answer to the question is YES. Two different answers. Not sufficient. (2) x^2-1<0 --> -1<x<1. x can be positive as well as negative. Not sufficient. (1)+(2) x>1 or -1<x<0 AND -1<x<1 --> intersection of the ranges from (1) and (2) is -1<x<0. x is negative. Sufficient. Answer: C. aiyedh wrote: 1. x^3(1-x^2) <0 x^3- x^5<0 x^3 < x^5 , which mean that x is positive no negative. ( sufficinet).
2. x^2<1
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which mean that we do not know exactally wheather it is positive or negative. ( not sufficient).
the answer is A Red part is not correct. x^3 < x^5 does not hold true for all positive x-es. For example x=0.5 --> x^3>x^5. Also x can be negative in the range -1<x<0 and x^3 < x^5 will hold true.
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abhi758 wrote: Is X negative?
1. x^3(1-x^2) < 0 2. x^2-1 < 0
Please explain your answer.. here, is small note: as soon as we see one number can be either positive or negative we know the statement is not sufficient. so statement 1) x^3(1-x^2) < 0 , here x^3 can +ve or -ve => not suff. similarly; x^2-1 < 0 => (x-1)(x+1)<0 ; here also x-1 or x+1 can +ve or -ve not suff. combining both : since x^2-1 < 0 or 1- x^2 > 0 hence from statement 1 x^3 < 0 => x< 0 => suff.
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is x negative 1) X^3-X^5<0 2) X^2-1 <0 while solving stmt 1 X^3(1-X^2)<0 X^3(X+1)(1-X)<0 Then i took the roots as -1,0,+1 on the number line to find the range as per vertias prep graph approach but am getting ranges as 0>X<1 and x<-1 which is wrong .please do correct me
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skamal7 wrote: is x negative 1) X^3-X^5<0 2) X^2-1 <0
while solving stmt 1 X^3(1-X^2)<0 X^3(X+1)(1-X)<0 Then i took the roots as -1,0,+1 on the number line to find the range as per vertias prep graph approach but am getting ranges as 0>X<1 and x<-1 which is wrong .please do correct me You will have to re-arrrange the equation to read x(x+1)(x-1)>0. You can drop the x^2 as it is always positive and x is not equal to zero. Now if you plot the roots, it will give you -1,0 and 1. Thus, the valid ranges will be x>1 OR -1<x<0. Insufficient. From F.S 2, we know that |x|<1 --> -1<x<1. Insufficient. On taking both fact statements together, for -1<x<0, both the conditions are fulfilled. Sufficient. C.
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abhi758 wrote: Is x negative?
(1) x^3(1-x^2) < 0 (2) x^2-1 < 0 Hi all, (1) x^3(1-x^2) < 0 let x=10....==>therefore 10^3(1-100)=-99*10^3<0 satisfying for positive X now let x= -0.1===> therefore (-0.1)^3(1-0.01)= -0.99*0.1^3<0 satisfying when X is negative... so X can be positive and negative both so not definite answer. (2) x^2-1 < 0 this holds for -1<x<1 again not sufficient now combining from statement 2 we got 2 things: ==> x^2-1<0....therefore 1-x^2>0-----(1) ==>range of x...-1<x<1-----(2) now coming to statement 1... we know 1-x^2>0.....from (1) therefore for x^3(1-x^2) < 0....to hold true...x^3 <0....since we know 1-x^2 is positive from (1) now we have x^3<0....therfeore x<0----(3) now using (2) and (3) x belongs to-1<x<0 menas x is negative.hence sufficient therefore (C) hope it helps. SKM
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Is p a negative number?
(1) p^3(1 – p^2) < 0
(2) p^2 – 1 < 0
Please provide Detailed Explanations! Thanks!
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Re: Is p a negative number? [#permalink]
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Statement 1: p³(1-p²) < 0 Both p³ and 1-p² must be of opposite signs.
If p<0 implies p³<0 implies 1-p²>0 implies 1>p² implies -1<p<0
If p>0 implies p³>0 implies 1-p²<0 implies 1<p² implies p>1
So, from statement 1, p can either lie between -1 or 0 or it can be greater than 1. So, it is not sufficient to answer.
Statement 2: p²-1<0 implies p²<1 implies -1<p<1 (excluding 0) So, this statement alone is also not sufficient to answer.
Combining the two statements. we get -1<p<0 So, p is -ve. Can be answered.
Hope it is clear.
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fozzzy wrote: Is p a negative number?
(1) p^3(1 – p^2) < 0
(2) p^2 – 1 < 0
Please provide Detailed Explanations! Thanks! Is p a negative number? (1) p^3(1 – p^2) < 0Hence p^3 and 1 - p^2 have opposite sign . If p^3 is positive and 1-p^2 is negative : Then p is positive If p^3 is negative and 1-p^2 is positive: Then p is negative Two different answer, INSUFFICIENT 2) p^2 – 1 < 0Hence p^2 < 1 and thus: -1<p<1 so p could be positive or negative : INSUFFICIENT (1) p^3(1 – p^2) < 0 AND 2) p^2 – 1 < 0So we are in the second case for the first statement : i.e : p^3 is negative and 1-p^2 is positive , Thus p is negative Answer : C
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