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Last edited by Bunuel on 29 Jul 2016, 00:56, edited 1 time in total.

Renamed the topic, edited the question and added the OA.

I know its an easy one even i got answer in seconds but still need more perfection in fundamentals of mod questions m looking forward to a basic fundamental explanation of the same

I think c). all the above are in absolute value. from question stem we see that for a sum of absolute value to be 0, both the terms should be equal to zero. even if one of the terms is not equal to zero, the sum will nto be equal to zero.

statement 1 says: x + (positive no) = 0 i.e. either both zero or x = -(2y) statement 2 says: y +(pos no) = 0 again either both zero or y = -(2x)

unless it is mentioed that x and y are positive, id say C. becuase it then becomes clear that x & y have to be zero and so |x| + |y| = 0.

I know its an easy one even i got answer in seconds but still need more perfection in fundamentals of mod questions m looking forward to a basic fundamental explanation of the same

This is how you can reason it out theoretically:

Question: Is |x| + |y| = 0 ? A mod is either positive or 0. It can never take a negative value. If sum of two mods is 0, they both individually have to be 0 to give a sum 0. So question comes down to: Is x = y = 0?

1)x + 2|y| = 0 Again, |y| will be either 0 or positive. So x will be 0 in first case (when y = 0) and negative in the second case (when |y| is positive) to give a sum of 0. Hence we cannot say whether x = y = 0. Not sufficient.

2)y + 2|x| = 0 Same is the case here. There is not reason why analysis of this equation should be any different from statement 1 since x and y are just interchanged.

Together, either x = y=0 else x and y both are negative. If x and y both are negative, then x = -2|y| and y = -2|x| i.e. in absolute value terms, x is twice of y and y is twice of x which is not possible. Hence, the only way both statements will hold is if x = y = 0. Hence answer (C). _________________

|x|+|y|=0? or |x|=-|y|? Both |x| and |y| are positive, so is it possible that |x| is negative of some positive quantity, thus, only possibility would be |x|=|y|=0? and that's the question.

Using (1), |y|=-x/2 or \(x \leq 0\), so, it is possible that x = -1, y = 1/2, then \(|x|+|y| \neq 0\) or x =0, y = 0, then \(|x|+|y| = 0\), Insufficient.

Using (2); |x|=-y/2 or \(y \leq 0\), so, it is possible that y = -1, x = 1/2, then \(|x|+|y| \neq 0\) or y = 0, x = 0, then \(|x|+|y| = 0\), Insufficient.

Combining both, \(x \leq 0\), then |x|=-y/2 implies, -x=-y/2 or 2x = y.......(a)

Similarly, \(y \leq 0\), then |y|=-x/2 implies, -y=-x/2 or x = 2y........(b) From (a) & (b) 4y=y, thus y=0 & x=0 Also, \(|x|+|y| = 0\). Sufficient.

Since absolute value is non-negative the from \(|x| + |y| = 0\) we have that the sum of two non-negative values equals to zero, which is only possible if both of them equal to zero. So, the question basically asks whether \(x=y=0\)

(1) x + 2|y| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(x=-2\) and \(y=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|y|=-\frac{x}{2}\), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|y|\)), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{0}\).

(2) y + 2|x| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(y=-2\) and \(x=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|x|=-\frac{y}{2}\), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|x|\)), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(y\leq{0}\).

(1)+(2) We have that \(x\leq{0}\) and \(y\leq{0}\), hence equations from the statements transform to: \(x-2y=0\) and \(y-2x=0\). Solving gives \(x=y=0\). Sufficient.

(1) Not sufficient, but implies that x is not positive. (2) Again, not sufficient, but implies y is not positive.

When considering (1) and (2) together, we can add the two equations side-by-side and obtain x + 2|y| + y + 2|x| = 0, and (x + |x|) + |x| + (y + |y|) +|y| = 0 + |x| + 0 + |y| = |x| + |y| = 0. We used the fact that if x is not positive (it is negative or 0), then x + |x| = 0.

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Since the Question stem is asking if sum of 2 absolute values (which are positive) equal to 0. We know that sum of 2 positive nos can be zero if both are zero. Hence Question asks if x=y=0

from St1 we have x+2|y|=0 Now if y is less than equal to 0 than we have x-2y=0 or x=2y or x=0 if y is 0 If y>0 then x=-2y

Since using 1 we have more than 1 possible option therefore A,D ruled out

From st 2 we have y+2|x|=0 If x is less than or equal to zero than y-2x=0 or y=2x or if x=0 then y=0 If x>0 then y=-2x

Again more than 1 solution so Option B ruled out

Combining both statement we get

x=2y ,x=-2y, y=2x and y=-2x and x=0, y=0

Since x=0,y=0 is common from both equation we can say say that |x|+|y|=0 Note that x and y have to be 0 to satisfy all above equations. _________________

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There are two ways we can solve. One is to get the positive and negative cases of y. On the other hand, we can isolate |y| as the question is looking for the value of |y|+|x|

x + 2|y| = 0 2|y| = -x |y| = -x/2 if |y| = -x/2 then -x/2 must be positive which means x is negative. Of course, x could also be zero meaning we don't know if the absolute value of x and y = 0 INSUFFICIENT

(2) y + 2|x| = 0 This is a similar statement to the above one, except we have the absolute value of x instead of y. y + 2|x| = 0 2|x| = -y |x| = -y/2 As with the above statement -y/2 = an absolute value so y must be negative. However, it could also be = to zero. INSUFFICIENT

So....from 1 and 2 we know that x<=0 and y<=0 which means that: x + 2|y| = 0 x-2y = 0

Since absolute value is non-negative the from \(|x| + |y| = 0\) we have that the sum of two non-negative values equals to zero, which is only possible if both of them equal to zero. So, the question basically asks whether \(x=y=0\)

(1) x + 2|y| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(x=-2\) and \(y=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|y|=-\frac{x}{2}\), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|y|\)), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{0}\).

(2) y + 2|x| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(y=-2\) and \(x=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|x|=-\frac{y}{2}\), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|x|\)), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(y\leq{0}\).

(1)+(2) We have that \(x\leq{0}\) and \(y\leq{0}\), hence equations from the statements transform to: \(x-2y=0\) and \(y-2x=0\). Solving gives \(x=y=0\). Sufficient.

Hi Bunuel, why do the "equations from the statements transform to: \(x-2y=0\) and \(y-2x=0\)"? Shouldn't it be -x + 2y = 0 and -y +2x = 0? Hope you can help clarify.

Since absolute value is non-negative the from \(|x| + |y| = 0\) we have that the sum of two non-negative values equals to zero, which is only possible if both of them equal to zero. So, the question basically asks whether \(x=y=0\)

(1) x + 2|y| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(x=-2\) and \(y=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|y|=-\frac{x}{2}\), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|y|\)), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{0}\).

(2) y + 2|x| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(y=-2\) and \(x=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|x|=-\frac{y}{2}\), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|x|\)), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(y\leq{0}\).

(1)+(2) We have that \(x\leq{0}\) and \(y\leq{0}\), hence equations from the statements transform to: \(x-2y=0\) and \(y-2x=0\). Solving gives \(x=y=0\). Sufficient.

Hi Bunuel, why do the "equations from the statements transform to: \(x-2y=0\) and \(y-2x=0\)"? Shouldn't it be -x + 2y = 0 and -y +2x = 0? Hope you can help clarify.

We have that \(x\leq{0}\) and \(y\leq{0}\), thus \(|x|=-x\) and \(|y|=-y\). Therefore \(x + 2|y| = 0\) becomes \(x-2y=0\) and \(y + 2|x| = 0\) becomes \(y-2x=0\).

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Since absolute value is non-negative the from \(|x| + |y| = 0\) we have that the sum of two non-negative values equals to zero, which is only possible if both of them equal to zero. So, the question basically asks whether \(x=y=0\)

(1) x + 2|y| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(x=-2\) and \(y=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|y|=-\frac{x}{2}\), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|y|\)), so \(-\frac{x}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{0}\).

(2) y + 2|x| = 0. It's certainly possible that \(x=y=0\) but it's also possible that \(y=-2\) and \(x=1\). Not sufficient.

Notice that from this statement \(|x|=-\frac{y}{2}\), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\) equals to a non-negative value (\(|x|\)), so \(-\frac{y}{2}\geq{0}\) --> \(y\leq{0}\).

(1)+(2) We have that \(x\leq{0}\) and \(y\leq{0}\), hence equations from the statements transform to: \(x-2y=0\) and \(y-2x=0\). Solving gives \(x=y=0\). Sufficient.

I solved this question in the following way - still got the right answer (not sure if I am right or it was just a fluke). Please provide input.

|x| + |y| = 0, means both value of x&y needs to be known (preferably zero)

Each statement talks about two variables at the same time -Both Insufficient- So either C or E

Now, Statement 1 is in form of y=mx+c (m=-0.5/+0.5 - slope) & Statement 2 is in form of y=mx+c (m=-2/+2 - slope)

Since any of the possibilities do not overlap each other, these lines will intersect each other at one point - and thus a solution is possible with the help of both the statements. Thus C

I know its an easy one even i got answer in seconds but still need more perfection in fundamentals of mod questions m looking forward to a basic fundamental explanation of the same

addition of two positive values will only result in zero if both the numbers are 0. niether 1 nor 2 sufficiently states that. But if we combine both of them, we have x=y=0 , the only case which satisfies the equations. hence C. The OA is wrong!

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