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eybrj2 wrote:
According to my grammar book, appositive phrase describe nouns to pronouns, Instead of modifying nouns to pronouns, however, appositive phrases rename them. In form they are nouns or onus equivalents.
Ex) Bloogers, conversationalist at heart, are the ~~~~

I can't find such a thing in this Q.

People are perhaps referring to the non-underlined portion: his mother, Grace.

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Also, Doesn't which always modify the noun before it in GMAT?
It it does, which in the Q is supposed to modify Grace.

Actually which cannot modify a person. So, this takes Hemingway, his mother and Grace out of contention.

Hence, which modifies relationship.
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Re: It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is p [#permalink]
The author is trying to compare the relationship of the H with his mother as compared to his relation with all the other women in his life

B and D are out because we don't intend to modify grace but her relation with her son.

A is out because of illogical comparison

Down to C and E. Chose C over E because E seemed unnecessarily wordy.
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Re: It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is p [#permalink]
It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life.
(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life - illogical - which can refer to relationship but the sentence says of all the women
(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life - seems grammatically correct but sentence seems logically incomplete
(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women - Correct
(D) who, of all the relationships he had with women, is probably the most enigmatic - same as B
(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had - wordy

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It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life.

(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women
(D) who, of all the relationships eh had with women, is probably the most enigmatic
(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had




I looked up this Q, and people said that it tested "appositive phrase"

According to my grammar book, appositive phrase describe nouns to pronouns, Instead of modifying nouns to pronouns, however, appositive phrases rename them. In form they are nouns or onus equivalents.
Ex) Bloogers, conversationalist at heart, are the ~~~~

I can't find such a thing in this Q.

Also, Doesn't which always modify the noun before it in GMAT?
It it does, which in the Q is supposed to modify Grace.

Please, explain this Q.


It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life.

The meaning is the most critical part here :
Author wants to say that : Hemingway had many relationships with other women. But the most his relationshio with his mother is the most enigmatic one...

Now if we see the options :
(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
Here the which part is modifying "grace" rather than modifying the "relationshiP"...again this is also wrong because which cannot be use to modify a person

(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
Same as A ...we need a modifier that modifies the "relationship" and complete the non-underlined part of the sentence with the intended meaning....

(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women
This part is correctly modifying the "relationship" with a relative modifier "which" - Correct Option

(D) who, of all the relationships eh had with women, is probably the most enigmatic
Here the non-undi part implies that "grace" is a relationship ...also the sentence says that grace is most enigmatic whereas we need "relationship" to be the most enigmatic..

(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had
Same as A ..which cannot modify "grace" - a person
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It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life.

(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women
(D) who, of all the relationships eh had with women, is probably the most enigmatic
(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had

Could Verbal Expert help? "who" versus 'which" is confusing. The noun "relationship" is slightly far away from the "which".
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As per Manhattan, "which" should touch the noun it modifies.What are the exceptions to this rule, the current question seems to be one of them. Please explain.
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Hi, which, a relative pronoun, cannot modify person/people. So, following would be incorrect:

My sister, which lives in Canada, is a teacher.

which, a relative pronoun, cannot modify sister (a person). The correct sentence is:

My sister, who lives in Canada, is a teacher.

In the sentence under consideration, which cannot modify Grace, mother, or Hemingway, because all three are persons.

Hence, the nearest word that which can modify in this sentence, is relationship, a non-person.

p.s. Our book EducationAisle Sentence Correction Nirvana discusses modifier issues with which, its application and examples in significant detail. If someone is interested, PM me your email-id; I can mail the corresponding section.
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It is the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace, which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life.

(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women
(D) who, of all the relationships eh had with women, is probably the most enigmatic
(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had


Imo C

The subject of the sentence is " relationship" so we need something related to relationship in the sentence following comma.

A is wrong as the meaning is not conveyed in the sentence and use of which is incorrect
B Changes meaning
C correct
D this sentence is terrible as who refers to Mary a person and the sentence implying that Mary was out of relationships .This does not make sense
E again this is changes meaning and suggests that mary was out of relationships , use of which is wrong
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Shekhar44 wrote:
As per Manhattan, "which" should touch the noun it modifies.What are the exceptions to this rule, the current question seems to be one of them. Please explain.
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In the same Manhattan guide, some exceptions to the touch rule has been mentioned. The first exception describes that a mission-critical modifier may come in between a noun and its modifier. The modifier then modifes the noun + the mission-critical modifier together. Here you may consider "of Hemingway with his mother, Grace" the mission-critical modifier. Thus the modifier "which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women" refers to "the relationship of Hemingway with his mother, Grace".
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Answer: (C)

The subject of this sentence is the relationship of H with his mother. The underlined portion goes on to describe the relationship H had as "enigmatic" (mysterious).

Answer choices that illogically describe H's mother as mysterious are incorrect.
(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life
(D) who, of all the relationships he had with women, is probably the most enigmatic
(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had

E is more subtle on this.

C is quite clear that it is the relationship that is enigmatic.
(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women

Which is referring to the relationship. "Grace" is quarantined grammatically from the subject and + relative pronoun modifie by commas.
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Option elimination -

(A) which is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life - The first part of the sentence talks about the relationship, and the second describes his mother. We need to talk about the relationship in the 2nd part as well. Here, which is correct to refer to the relationship but is wrongly used to compare with "all women in his life."
(B) who is probably the most enigmatic of all the women in his life. We need to talk about the relationship in the 2nd part as well.
(C) which is probably the most enigmatic of all his relationships with women - ok. Which refers to the relationship.
(D) who, of all the relationships he had with women, is probably the most enigmatic - again, it describes the mother while we need to talk about the relationship.
(E) which, of all the women in his life, is probably the most enigmatic relationship he had - which is correct to refer to the relationship but is wrongly used to compare with "all women in his life."
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