Last visit was: 24 Apr 2024, 06:10 It is currently 24 Apr 2024, 06:10

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
SORT BY:
Date
Tags:
Show Tags
Hide Tags
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 02 May 2010
Posts: 31
Own Kudos [?]: 165 [121]
Given Kudos: 3
Schools:IU, UT Dallas, Univ of Georgia, Univ of Arkansas, Miami University
WE 1: 5.5 Yrs IT
Send PM
Most Helpful Reply
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92901
Own Kudos [?]: 618730 [42]
Given Kudos: 81586
Send PM
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Status:Three Down.
Posts: 1764
Own Kudos [?]: 3468 [20]
Given Kudos: 210
Concentration: General Management, Nonprofit
Send PM
General Discussion
User avatar
Director
Director
Joined: 03 Aug 2012
Posts: 587
Own Kudos [?]: 3155 [0]
Given Kudos: 322
Concentration: General Management, General Management
GMAT 1: 630 Q47 V29
GMAT 2: 680 Q50 V32
GPA: 3.7
WE:Information Technology (Investment Banking)
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Folks,

I have seen the replies of experts. However, I have one query on this question.

Solution:

Work to be performed =100 decks

Rate * time = work
100/x * x = 100
Rate 1: 100/x

Similarly Rate 2 : 100/y

Then why posters have taken the rates as 1/x and 1/y.

Rgds,
TGC!
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92901
Own Kudos [?]: 618730 [0]
Given Kudos: 81586
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
TGC wrote:
Folks,

I have seen the replies of experts. However, I have one query on this question.

Solution:

Work to be performed =100 decks

Rate * time = work
100/x * x = 100
Rate 1: 100/x

Similarly Rate 2 : 100/y

Then why posters have taken the rates as 1/x and 1/y.

Rgds,
TGC!


It takes machine A x hours to manufacture ONE deck --> the rate of A = (job)/(time) = 1/x decks per hour;
It takes machine B y hours to manufacture ONE deck --> the rate of B = (job)/(time) = 1/y decks per hour.

Hope it's clear.
Tutor
Joined: 10 Jul 2015
Status:Expert GMAT, GRE, and LSAT Tutor / Coach
Affiliations: Harvard University, A.B. with honors in Government, 2002
Posts: 1178
Own Kudos [?]: 2412 [0]
Given Kudos: 272
Location: United States (CO)
Age: 44
GMAT 1: 770 Q47 V48
GMAT 2: 730 Q44 V47
GMAT 3: 750 Q50 V42
GMAT 4: 730 Q48 V42 (Online)
GRE 1: Q168 V169

GRE 2: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Attached is a visual that should help. Bundle's solution is the most elegant, but if you can't pull that off (which many test-takers can't), then this illustrates an admittedly more work-intensive second option.
Attachments

Screen Shot 2016-03-31 at 6.25.39 PM.png
Screen Shot 2016-03-31 at 6.25.39 PM.png [ 216.18 KiB | Viewed 25433 times ]

Screen Shot 2016-03-31 at 6.26.17 PM.png
Screen Shot 2016-03-31 at 6.26.17 PM.png [ 117.77 KiB | Viewed 25442 times ]

Tutor
Joined: 10 Jul 2015
Status:Expert GMAT, GRE, and LSAT Tutor / Coach
Affiliations: Harvard University, A.B. with honors in Government, 2002
Posts: 1178
Own Kudos [?]: 2412 [0]
Given Kudos: 272
Location: United States (CO)
Age: 44
GMAT 1: 770 Q47 V48
GMAT 2: 730 Q44 V47
GMAT 3: 750 Q50 V42
GMAT 4: 730 Q48 V42 (Online)
GRE 1: Q168 V169

GRE 2: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
...and here is a visual version of Bunuel 's explanation.
Attachments

Screen Shot 2016-04-02 at 11.31.19 AM.png
Screen Shot 2016-04-02 at 11.31.19 AM.png [ 125.72 KiB | Viewed 25285 times ]

avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 23 May 2016
Posts: 6
Own Kudos [?]: 2 [0]
Given Kudos: 2
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Bunuel why is the rate (y+x / yx). Isnt that time? Work rule is 1/r + 1/s = 1/h so doing 1/x + 1/y actually delivers time not rate?
Math Expert
Joined: 02 Sep 2009
Posts: 92901
Own Kudos [?]: 618730 [2]
Given Kudos: 81586
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
1
Kudos
1
Bookmarks
Expert Reply
rjivani wrote:
Bunuel why is the rate (y+x / yx). Isnt that time? Work rule is 1/r + 1/s = 1/h so doing 1/x + 1/y actually delivers time not rate?


Time is a reciprocal of rate:
1/r + 1/s = 1/h

(s + r)/(rs) = 1/h

h = rs/(r+s).

THEORY
There are several important things you should know to solve work problems:

1. Time, rate and job in work problems are in the same relationship as time, speed (rate) and distance in rate problems.

\(time*speed=distance\) <--> \(time*rate=job \ done\). For example when we are told that a man can do a certain job in 3 hours we can write: \(3*rate=1\) --> \(rate=\frac{1}{3}\) job/hour. Or when we are told that 2 printers need 5 hours to complete a certain job then \(5*(2*rate)=1\) --> so rate of 1 printer is \(rate=\frac{1}{10}\) job/hour. Another example: if we are told that 2 printers need 3 hours to print 12 pages then \(3*(2*rate)=12\) --> so rate of 1 printer is \(rate=2\) pages per hour;

So, time to complete one job = reciprocal of rate. For example if 6 hours (time) are needed to complete one job --> 1/6 of the job will be done in 1 hour (rate).

2. We can sum the rates.

If we are told that A can complete one job in 2 hours and B can complete the same job in 3 hours, then A's rate is \(rate_a=\frac{job}{time}=\frac{1}{2}\) job/hour and B's rate is \(rate_b=\frac{job}{time}=\frac{1}{3}\) job/hour. Combined rate of A and B working simultaneously would be \(rate_{a+b}=rate_a+rate_b=\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{3}=\frac{5}{6}\) job/hour, which means that they will complete \(\frac{5}{6}\) job in one hour working together.

3. For multiple entities: \(\frac{1}{t_1}+\frac{1}{t_2}+\frac{1}{t_3}+...+\frac{1}{t_n}=\frac{1}{T}\), where \(T\) is time needed for these entities to complete a given job working simultaneously.

For example if:
Time needed for A to complete the job is A hours;
Time needed for B to complete the job is B hours;
Time needed for C to complete the job is C hours;
...
Time needed for N to complete the job is N hours;

Then: \(\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}+\frac{1}{C}+...+\frac{1}{N}=\frac{1}{T}\), where T is the time needed for A, B, C, ..., and N to complete the job working simultaneously.

For two and three entities (workers, pumps, ...):

General formula for calculating the time needed for two workers A and B working simultaneously to complete one job:

Given that \(t_1\) and \(t_2\) are the respective individual times needed for \(A\) and \(B\) workers (pumps, ...) to complete the job, then time needed for \(A\) and \(B\) working simultaneously to complete the job equals to \(T_{(A&B)}=\frac{t_1*t_2}{t_1+t_2}\) hours, which is reciprocal of the sum of their respective rates (\(\frac{1}{t_1}+\frac{1}{t_2}=\frac{1}{T}\)).

General formula for calculating the time needed for three A, B and C workers working simultaneously to complete one job:

\(T_{(A&B&C)}=\frac{t_1*t_2*t_3}{t_1*t_2+t_1*t_3+t_2*t_3}\) hours.

Theory on work/rate problems: work-word-problems-made-easy-87357.html

All DS work/rate problems to practice: search.php?search_id=tag&tag_id=46
All PS work/rate problems to practice: search.php?search_id=tag&tag_id=66


Hope this helps
Target Test Prep Representative
Joined: 04 Mar 2011
Status:Head GMAT Instructor
Affiliations: Target Test Prep
Posts: 3043
Own Kudos [?]: 6271 [0]
Given Kudos: 1646
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
sjayasa wrote:
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that machine B can manufacture in 'y' hours. If machine A operates alone for 'z' hours and is then joined by machine B until 100 decks are finished, for how long will the two machines operate simultaneously?

A. (100xy – z)/(x + y)
B. y(100x – z)/(x + y)
C. 100y(x – z)/(x + y)
D. (x + y)/(100xy – z)
E. (x + y – z)/100xy


We can let the rate of machine A = 1/x and the rate of machine B = 1/y. We are given that machine A operates for z hours, so machine A completes (1/x)(z) = z/x decks of cards when operating alone. Thus, there will be 100 - z/x decks left to complete when machines A and B work together.

We can let n = the number of hours that machines A and B work together to complete (100 - z/x) decks and we can create the following equation:

(1/x + 1/y)(n) = 100 - z/x

Multiplying the entire equation by xy, we have:

(y + x)(n) = 100xy - zy

n = y(100x - z)/(y + x)

Answer: B
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
Hi All,

This question can be solved by TESTing VALUES.

Machine A takes X hours to make a deck of cards.
Machine B takes Y hours to make a deck of cards.

Since the answers are suitably complex-looking, let's choose really small, easy numbers to work with:

X = 1
Y = 2

So…
Machine A takes 1 hour to make a deck of cards
Machine B takes 2 hours to make a deck of cards
When both machines work together for 2 total hours, 3 decks of cards are made.

The question goes on to state that Machine A will work alone for Z hours, then be joined by Machine B until 100 decks are made.

Z = 1

In that first hour, Machine A will produce 1 deck of cards, leaving 99 decks to go. Since the two machines together can produce 3 decks every 2 hours, the remaining 99 decks will take…
2 hours x 33 sets = 66 hours.

We're looking for the answer that equals 66 when we plug in X=1, Y=2 and Z=1 into the answer choices.

While it "looks like" there's a lot of math to be done, most of the answers are way too small to be 66 (and it shouldn't take too long to figure that out). Only one answer equals 66

Final Answer:

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 23 May 2019
Posts: 39
Own Kudos [?]: 14 [0]
Given Kudos: 58
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
sjayasa wrote:
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that machine B can manufacture in 'y' hours. If machine A operates alone for 'z' hours and is then joined by machine B until 100 decks are finished, for how long will the two machines operate simultaneously?


A. \(\frac{100xy – z}{x + y}\)

B. \(\frac{y(100x – z)}{x + y}\)

C. \(\frac{100y(x – z)}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x + y}{100xy – z}\)

E. \(\frac{x + y – z}{100xy}\)



Hi,

I solved this problem with a different approach but failed to get the correct answer. Could anyone please tell me the mistake that I am doing?

Here is my approach:

Total units = 100

Let x = 2 hrs
So, in 1 hr A will produce 50 units

Similarly, y= 4 hrs
So, in 1 hr B will produce 25 units

Now suppose z= 1 hr
that means A will produce 50 units in 1 hr

Remaining = 50 units
So, combined rate is 50/25+ 50
= 50/75 hrs
Tutor
Joined: 04 Aug 2010
Posts: 1315
Own Kudos [?]: 3135 [0]
Given Kudos: 9
Schools:Dartmouth College
Send PM
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
sjayasa wrote:
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that machine B can manufacture in 'y' hours. If machine A operates alone for 'z' hours and is then joined by machine B until 100 decks are finished, for how long will the two machines operate simultaneously?


A. \(\frac{100xy – z}{x + y}\)

B. \(\frac{y(100x – z)}{x + y}\)

C. \(\frac{100y(x – z)}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x + y}{100xy – z}\)

E. \(\frac{x + y – z}{100xy}\)


Let x=2, implying that A's time to produce 1 deck = 2 hours.
Let y=3, implying that B's time to produce 1 deck = 3 hours.

Machine A operates alone for z hours.
Let A produce ALL 100 DECKS.
Since A takes 2 hours per deck, z = (2 hours per deck)(100 decks) = 200 hours.

How long will the two machines operate simultaneously?
Since A produces all 100 decks -- implying that the two machines work together for 0 hours -- the numerator for the correct answer must yield a value of 0 when x=2, y=3 and z=200.
Only B works:
y(100x – z) = 3(100*2 - 200) = 0

GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
aarushisingla wrote:
sjayasa wrote:
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that machine B can manufacture in 'y' hours. If machine A operates alone for 'z' hours and is then joined by machine B until 100 decks are finished, for how long will the two machines operate simultaneously?


A. \(\frac{100xy – z}{x + y}\)

B. \(\frac{y(100x – z)}{x + y}\)

C. \(\frac{100y(x – z)}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x + y}{100xy – z}\)

E. \(\frac{x + y – z}{100xy}\)



Hi,

I solved this problem with a different approach but failed to get the correct answer. Could anyone please tell me the mistake that I am doing?

Here is my approach:

Total units = 100

Let x = 2 hrs
So, in 1 hr A will produce 50 units

Similarly, y= 4 hrs
So, in 1 hr B will produce 25 units

Now suppose z= 1 hr
that means A will produce 50 units in 1 hr

Remaining = 50 units
So, combined rate is 50/25+ 50
= 50/75 hrs


Hi aarushisingla,

Based on your post, it appears that you lost track of the 'units' that you were referring to.

If you set X = 2, then that means that it takes Machine A 2 HOURS to produce 1 deck. By extension, in 1 HOUR, Machine A would produce 1/2 of a deck (not 50 decks). The same issue occurs again with Machine B: if Y = 4, then it takes Machine B 4 HOURS to produce 1 deck - and in 1 HOUR, Machine B would produce 1/4 of a desk (not 25 decks).

If you want to proceed in that way, then you now know A's HOURLY RATE (re: 1/2 a deck per hour) and the COMBINED RATE of the two machines (1/2 + 1/4 = 3/4 of a deck each hour). This makes the overall math a bit more difficult than it needs to be, but you could still get the correct answer with it.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
VP
VP
Joined: 15 Dec 2016
Posts: 1375
Own Kudos [?]: 207 [0]
Given Kudos: 189
Send PM
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
VeritasKarishma Bunuel

If i was to plug in values, does that mean machine A takes "x" hours and machine B takes "y" hours for 1 deck of cards ?

I thought the question was not clear how many decks of cards (1 or more ?) machine A takes "x" hours for or B takes "y" hours for.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [0]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
jabhatta2 wrote:
VeritasKarishma Bunuel

If i was to plug in values, does that mean machine A takes "x" hours and machine B takes "y" hours for 1 deck of cards ?

I thought the question was not clear how many decks of cards (1 or more ?) machine A takes "x" hours for or B takes "y" hours for.


Hi jabhatta2,

The first sentence refers to the number of hours for each Machine to "....manufacture A deck of cards...", so those rates are relative to producing 1 deck.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Intern
Intern
Joined: 25 Mar 2017
Posts: 17
Own Kudos [?]: 2 [0]
Given Kudos: 71
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Bunuel KarishmaB EMPOWERgmatRichC

Hi All,

I am taking x = 6 and Y = 3 and Z = 300 which is not giving me correct solution. But if I am plugging x = 3 and Y = 6 and Z = 300 which is giving me 0 and that value is correct. How to identify which between x and y should be greater if I am plugging values.
Tutor
Joined: 11 May 2022
Posts: 1092
Own Kudos [?]: 696 [0]
Given Kudos: 81
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
sjayasa wrote:
It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that machine B can manufacture in 'y' hours. If machine A operates alone for 'z' hours and is then joined by machine B until 100 decks are finished, for how long will the two machines operate simultaneously?


A. \(\frac{100xy – z}{x + y}\)

B. \(\frac{y(100x – z)}{x + y}\)

C. \(\frac{100y(x – z)}{x + y}\)

D. \(\frac{x + y}{100xy – z}\)

E. \(\frac{x + y – z}{100xy}\)


Variables in the question that are repeated in the answer choices is an invitation to Plug In. An underutilized Plugging In trick is to try to end up with zero at the end.
x=1
y=doesn't matter...I'll use 2
z=100
A makes all the decks on its own.
A and B work together for zero hours to finish.

Let's check the answer choices (we need a numerator equal to zero; denominator is irrelevant):

A. \(\frac{200 – 100}{x + y}\) Not zero. Eliminate.

B. \(\frac{2(100 – 100)}{x + y}\) Keep it.

C. \(\frac{200(1 – 100)}{x + y}\) Not zero. Eliminate.

D. \(\frac{1 + 100}{100xy – z}\) Not zero. Eliminate.

E. \(\frac{1 + 2 – 100}{100xy}\) Not zero. Eliminate.

Answer choice B.


ThatDudeKnowsPluggingIn
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
Status:GMAT Assassin/Co-Founder
Affiliations: EMPOWERgmat
Posts: 21846
Own Kudos [?]: 11664 [1]
Given Kudos: 450
Location: United States (CA)
GMAT 1: 800 Q51 V49
GRE 1: Q170 V170
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
1
Kudos
Expert Reply
himgkp1989 wrote:
Bunuel KarishmaB EMPOWERgmatRichC

Hi All,

I am taking x = 6 and Y = 3 and Z = 300 which is not giving me correct solution. But if I am plugging x = 3 and Y = 6 and Z = 300 which is giving me 0 and that value is correct. How to identify which between x and y should be greater if I am plugging values.



Hi himgkp1989,

Since you have not shown your 'work', it's not clear what the issue might be with your approach through your first TEST case. Using those numbers though, we would have:

X = 6
Y = 3
Z = 300

Machine A takes 6 hours to complete a deck of cards and Machine B takes 3 hours to complete a deck of cards.

Machine A works alone for 300 hours, so it completes 300/6 = 50 decks of cards. So now we have 100 - 50 = 50 more decks of cards to create.

From this point, every 6 HOURS will give us 3 more finished decks (1 from Machine A and 2 from Machine B). Thus, the remaining 50 decks will take 6(50/3) = 300/3 = 100 hours) to create. The answer choices are all written as fractions, but we're ultimately looking for the one that equals 100 when X=6, Y=3 and Z=300. There's only one that matches.

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

Contact Rich at: Rich.C@empowergmat.com
Tutor
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Posts: 14817
Own Kudos [?]: 64892 [0]
Given Kudos: 426
Location: Pune, India
Send PM
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
Expert Reply
himgkp1989 wrote:
Bunuel KarishmaB EMPOWERgmatRichC

Hi All,

I am taking x = 6 and Y = 3 and Z = 300 which is not giving me correct solution. But if I am plugging x = 3 and Y = 6 and Z = 300 which is giving me 0 and that value is correct. How to identify which between x and y should be greater if I am plugging values.


himgkp1989

Nothing wrong with your approach. The answer does not depend on which is greater.

A makes a deck in x = 6 hrs,
B makes a deck in y = 3 hrs,
A works for z = 300 hrs and makes 300/6 = 50 decks.

So together, they need to make another 50 decks (to make total 100)

Combined rate = 1/6 + 1/3 = 1/2
so together they will take 2 hrs to make a deck. So to make 50 decks, they need 100 hrs of work together.

When you plug these values in (B), you get 100.

Though, when a question involves so many variables, I would not suggest you to plug in numbers. The probability of a mistake increases multifold.
GMAT Club Bot
Re: It takes machine A 'x' hours to manufacture a deck of cards that [#permalink]
 1   2   
Moderators:
Math Expert
92901 posts
Senior Moderator - Masters Forum
3137 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne