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Jane: According to an article in this news magazine, [#permalink] New post 14 Aug 2004, 01:21
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Jane: According to an article in this news magazine, children’s hand-eye coordination suffers when they spend a great amount of time watching television. Therefore, we must restrict the amount of time Jacqueline and Mildred are allowed to watch television.

Alan: Rubbish! The article says that only children under three are affected in that way. Jacqueline is ten and Mildred is eight. Therefore, we need not restrict their television viewing.

Alan’s argument against Jane’s conclusion makes which one of the following errors in reasoning?

(A) It relies on the same source that Jane cited in support of her conclusion.
(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false.
(C) It does not address the main point of Jane’s argument and focuses instead on a side issue.
(D) It makes an irrelevant appeal to an authority.
(E) It fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes of the practice.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Aug 2004, 07:22
Agree with B here although C was tempting.
conclusion: we must restrict the amount of time Jacqueline and Mildred are allowed to watch television
argument: children’s hand-eye coordination suffers when they spend a great amount of time watching television
Alan says: rubbish! If he says that, he must be in total disagreement with the argument; he should instead try to destroy the argument. Yet, all he does is saying that the conclusion is not true because his children fall into a different category. He does nothing to attack the argument
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Aug 2004, 15:32
agree with B. Nice explanation Paul.
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Aug 2004, 17:05
lastochka wrote:
why is B a better choice than C?


The main point of Janes argument (aka conclusion) is that the children shouldnt watch T.V.

Alan DOES address this, although his method for disputing the conclusion is incorrect (per B).
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 [#permalink] New post 14 Aug 2004, 20:52
OA is B
Thanks all for ur explanations
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CR television [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2005, 06:16
Jane: According to an article in this news magazine, children’s hand-eye coordination suffers when they spend a great amount of time watching television. Therefore, we must restrict the amount of time Jacqueline and Mildred are allowed to watch television.
Alan: Rubbish! The article says that only children under three are affected in that way. Jacqueline is ten and Mildred is eight. Therefore, we need not restrict their television viewing.

Alan’s argument against Jane’s conclusion makes which one of the following errors in reasoning?

(A) It relies on the same source that Jane cited in support of her conclusion.
(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false.
(C) It does not address the main point of Jane’s argument and focuses instead on a side issue.
(D) It makes an irrelevant appeal to an authority.
(E) It fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes of the practice.
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 [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2005, 06:40
It fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes of the practice.
here the practice being "watching the television"

consequences of a certian practice is not considered by Alan..

so E.

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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2005, 06:50
I am not convinced with E.

Practice is watching TV
Consequence - loss of hand-eye coordination
Cause of practice ie watching TV----?

The OA which I have is not E unless it is wrong.
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 [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2005, 07:09
i would choose B) or C) !

he doesnt weaken or undermine the argument. he just attacks the conclusion => that is what B) says

hm? i dont think that the age is a side issue, moreover it is a main point.

i dont think that E) points to the error in his reasoning. he just fails to attack the argument.

...so B)
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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2005, 08:30
J: If A (TV) then B (bad eye).
A: If A and C (younger than 3) then B. Non C, therefore non B.

Flaw: C leads to B doesn't mean non C leads to non B. (Read the CR principle thread again.)

(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false.
A undermineded J's argument by saying only if both A and C are true, then B is certain to be true. However he did not show that B itself is necessarily false.
Use layman's word, he showed that the artical says three years old would have bad hand eye coordination if they watch too much TV. But he didn't show whether or not older children would suffer from the same effect.
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 [#permalink] New post 04 Mar 2005, 12:56
good one.. that explains it.. thanks for the explanation HongHu..
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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2008, 19:51
HongHu wrote:
J: If A (TV) then B (bad eye).
A: If A and C (younger than 3) then B. Non C, therefore non B.

Flaw: C leads to B doesn't mean non C leads to non B. (Read the CR principle thread again.)

(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false.
A undermineded J's argument by saying only if both A and C are true, then B is certain to be true. However he did not show that B itself is necessarily false.
Use layman's word, he showed that the artical says three years old would have bad hand eye coordination if they watch too much TV. But he didn't show whether or not older children would suffer from the same effect.


HongHu, A also says that "ONLY children under three are affected ...". So, I think this implies that the same rule doesn't apply over children over three.
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Doesn't this rule out option B too.
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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2008, 20:27
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Jane: According to an article in this newsmagazine, children’s hand-eye coordination suffers when they spend a great amount of time watching television. Therefore, we must restrict the amount of time Jacqueline and Mildred are allowed to watch television.
Alan: Rubbish! The article says that only children under three are affected in that way. Jacqueline is ten and Mildred is eight. Therefore, we need not restrict their television viewing.
Alan’s argument against Jane’s conclusion makes which one of the following errors in reasoning?
(A) It relies on the same source that Jane cited in support of her conclusion.
(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false.
(C) It does not address the main point of Jane’s argument and focuses instead on a side issue.
(D) It makes an irrelevant appeal to an authority.
(E) It fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes of the practice.


B POE

A: this isnt a flaw
C: not really its the same issue.
D: no
E: I dont really see how it fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes.

E or B was my guess, but I really liked B better. I have to admit B is rather confusing
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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 13 Jan 2008, 23:09
Well my answer was E. The reason I didn't choose B was that it said that A showed that the conclusion is false. But in the argument, A says that J didn't cite the article correctly and thus the conclusion is false.

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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2008, 03:14
B it is..

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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2008, 10:16
The OA is B.
Surya, please post your explanation.

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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 14 Jan 2008, 12:44
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The OA is B.
Surya, please post your explanation.

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THis is almost 3 year old post. I dont think even the person who posted is around anymore.
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Re: CR television [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2008, 22:55
(A) It relies on the same source that Jane cited in support of her conclusion. [Eliminate it]
(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false. – Hold it
(C) It does not address the main point of Jane’s argument and focuses instead on a side issue. [No side issue discussed – Eliminate it]
(D) It makes an irrelevant appeal to an authority. [Eliminate it]
(E) It fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes of the practice. [Eliminate it]

Answer: B
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children’s hand-eye coordination [#permalink] New post 26 Aug 2011, 10:09
Hi, this one was posted way before but no one gave a sounding answer and explanation yet so I would like to repost it so that someone can help me with this one.

Jane: According to an article in this newsmagazine, children’s hand-eye coordination suffers when they spend a great amount of time watching television. Therefore, we must restrict the amount of time Jacqueline and Mildred are allowed to watch television.
Alan: Rubbish! The article says that only children under three are affected in that way. Jacqueline is ten and Mildred is eight. Therefore, we need not restrict their television viewing.
Alan’s argument against Jane’s conclusion makes which one of the following errors in reasoning?

(A) It relies on the same source that Jane cited in support of her conclusion.
(B) It confuses undermining an argument in support of a given conclusion with showing that the conclusion itself is false.
(C) It does not address the main point of Jane’s argument and focuses instead on a side issue.
(D) It makes an irrelevant appeal to an authority.
(E) It fails to distinguish the consequences of a certain practice from the causes of the practice.
children’s hand-eye coordination   [#permalink] 26 Aug 2011, 10:09
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