Last visit was: 24 Apr 2024, 19:27 It is currently 24 Apr 2024, 19:27

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 25 Mar 2011
Posts: 64
Own Kudos [?]: 395 [0]
Given Kudos: 3
Send PM
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 28 Mar 2010
Status:GMAT in 4 weeks
Posts: 128
Own Kudos [?]: 453 [1]
Given Kudos: 25
GPA: 3.89
Send PM
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Status: enjoying
Posts: 5265
Own Kudos [?]: 42103 [0]
Given Kudos: 422
Location: India
WE:Education (Education)
Send PM
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 12 Oct 2009
Status:<strong>Nothing comes easy: neither do I want.</strong>
Posts: 2279
Own Kudos [?]: 3594 [0]
Given Kudos: 235
Location: Malaysia
Concentration: Technology, Entrepreneurship
Schools: ISB '15 (M)
GMAT 1: 670 Q49 V31
GMAT 2: 710 Q50 V35
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
daagh wrote:
Since logically the five-year old twins can't be flying their parents, it is the parents who must be flying their children. So the pronoun ‘they’ must refer to Jane and John.

Secondly the object pronoun 'them' referring to the children is essential to make it clear that the parents are themselves not flying. These norms leave choices C and E.

E is wrong because of the use of the prepositional phrase 'on Sunday', which may tend to mean that the summer home is located on Sundays. Not a big issue but still C is more forthright.


if it is clear that 'they' refers to parents , then how C is better than A?

A seems to be fine.
Director
Director
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
Status:No dream is too large, no dreamer is too small
Posts: 972
Own Kudos [?]: 4927 [0]
Given Kudos: 690
Concentration: Accounting
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
They is referring to parents because 5 years old twins cannot fly themselves or their parents.
GMAT Club Legend
GMAT Club Legend
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Status: enjoying
Posts: 5265
Own Kudos [?]: 42103 [0]
Given Kudos: 422
Location: India
WE:Education (Education)
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
Expert Reply
The object pronoun ‘them’ is essential to imply that the children are essentially traveling, mostly with the parents. A may tend to mean that the parents alone are traveling. Why will they travel alone? Are the going to attend a summer school on parenting?

To assume that the children might be already there is imaginativeness at its height.

SC’s one concern is effective expression through logical predication. I think as per this norm, A, though may be grammatically correct, is still inferior to C

I agree that end of the sentence is not the right place for the phrase ‘next Sunday’. It should go along with traveling. But all the choices falter on this; so let us ignore it.
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 28 Mar 2010
Status:GMAT in 4 weeks
Posts: 128
Own Kudos [?]: 453 [0]
Given Kudos: 25
GPA: 3.89
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
Baten80 wrote:
They is referring to parents because 5 years old twins cannot fly themselves or their parents.


I dont think this is universal knowledge.... :P
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Posts: 102
Own Kudos [?]: 37 [0]
Given Kudos: 18
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
'flying them', isn't it should be 'flying with them' to have option C as correct. I went with A, as it looks reasonable unless we had to assume something.
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 28 Mar 2010
Status:GMAT in 4 weeks
Posts: 128
Own Kudos [?]: 453 [0]
Given Kudos: 25
GPA: 3.89
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
There is are 2 scenario , it is ambiguous
Whats the source ?
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 25 Mar 2011
Posts: 64
Own Kudos [?]: 395 [0]
Given Kudos: 3
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
Sorry. I do not want to reveal the source (for personal reasons). The instructor said that C is the correct answer while I thought A was better than C. So, I posted it here and BTG forums to see what everyone thinks.

Here is my comment
Quote:
I fail to see how this is stylistically better than the original (as it still has the pronoun ambiguity). Moreover it changes the meaning.


Here is the instructors explanation.
Quote:
The so-called meaning change introduced by adding the pronoun "them" actually improves the logic of the sentence and makes it less ambiguous.Without "them" we don't understand who will be flying to Vermont - Jane and John? Or the twins? The addition of them makes it clear that Jane and John will be putting the twins on a plane, and the twins will be flying to vermont.

Let's look again at the corrected sentence. Since the sentence contains a subject and an object: "They will be flying them" (meaning "they" will be putting "them" on an airplane) - logic requires that "they" refer to the adults - Jane and John - and that "them" refer to the five-year olds.

In the real world, this is the only imaginable understanding of the sentence. Of course, in an imaginary world, it could be different: the twins could pay for their parents plane tickets, or maybe even ride on their parents' backs through the skies to Vermont. However, the GMAT will only present you with sentences describing real-world scenarios.

Finally (and this can never be stressed enough) meaning change in itself is not a sufficient reason to eliminate an answer choice, as a small meaning change is often inevitable to correct the sentence. If the other answer choices have worse grammar or logic mistakes, they are preferable to answer choice that has only a meaning change.
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 10 Mar 2011
Status:To Score 780 @ GMAT
Affiliations: Founder- FoodJustice India, Volunteer- Greenpeace Sustainable agriculture practices, University Placement Co-Ordinator-Management Department(2002-04), Member of Youth parliament-AU(2002-04)
Posts: 1
Own Kudos [?]: [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Location: India
Concentration: Sales &amp; Marketing, Food Economics
Schools:HBS
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
Ans C- Why?

1. Pronoun must be unambiguous
2. Every pronoun has only one possible antecedent
3. Pronouns shows the tendency to refer to nouns in the same case. Ex above: a pronoun "them" which is in object position is presumed to refer to the object of the prallel clause "twins"

Hope this helps!
User avatar
SVP
SVP
Joined: 12 Oct 2009
Status:<strong>Nothing comes easy: neither do I want.</strong>
Posts: 2279
Own Kudos [?]: 3594 [0]
Given Kudos: 235
Location: Malaysia
Concentration: Technology, Entrepreneurship
Schools: ISB '15 (M)
GMAT 1: 670 Q49 V31
GMAT 2: 710 Q50 V35
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
AimingHarvard wrote:
Ans C- Why?

1. Pronoun must be unambiguous
2. Every pronoun has only one possible antecedent
3. Pronouns shows the tendency to refer to nouns in the same case. Ex above: a pronoun "them" which is in object position is presumed to refer to the object of the prallel clause "twins"

Hope this helps!


the question is- why not A?

C changes the meaning, and the change in meaning is only permitted if something is wrong with the original sentence.
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 08 Jan 2011
Status:==GMAT Ninja==
Posts: 149
Own Kudos [?]: 217 [0]
Given Kudos: 46
Schools:ISB, IIMA ,SP Jain , XLRI
 Q48  V24 GMAT 2: 610  Q48  V27
WE 1: Aditya Birla Group (sales)
WE 2: Saint Gobain Group (sales)
Send PM
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
daagh wrote:
The object pronoun ‘them’ is essential to imply that the children are essentially traveling, mostly with the parents. A may tend to mean that the parents alone are traveling. Why will they travel alone? Are the going to attend a summer school on parenting?

To assume that the children might be already there is imaginativeness at its height.

SC’s one concern is effective expression through logical predication. I think as per this norm, A, though may be grammatically correct, is still inferior to C

I agree that end of the sentence is not the right place for the phrase ‘next Sunday’. It should go along with traveling. But all the choices falter on this; so let us ignore it.



dear daagh
"where the summer house is located " is just modifying 'vermont'
then how can you ignore E out of list :? :?



Archived Topic
Hi there,
This topic has been closed and archived due to inactivity or violation of community quality standards. No more replies are possible here.
Where to now? Join ongoing discussions on thousands of quality questions in our Sentence Correction (EA only) Forum
Still interested in this question? Check out the "Best Topics" block above for a better discussion on this exact question, as well as several more related questions.
Thank you for understanding, and happy exploring!
GMAT Club Bot
Re: Jane and John are very concerned about their five-year-old [#permalink]
Moderators:
GMAT Club Verbal Expert
6920 posts
GMAT Club Verbal Expert
238 posts
Current Student
278 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne