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Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again.

(A) often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again

(B) whose reputation declines after death and never regains its status again

(C) but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status

(D) who declines in reputation after death and who never regained popularity again

(E) then has declined in reputation after death and never regained popularity
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 [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 06:04
I like C.

Contrast is clearly shown between the time when the composers live and the time after their death.
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Re: SC - Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer (OG11) [#permalink] New post 18 Aug 2007, 06:09
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Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again.

(A) often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again

regains popularity again is redundant usage. Also, once the composer is dead, he cannot often go into decline!

(B) whose reputation declines after death and never regains its status again

... regain again is redundant usage again

(C) but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status

(D) who declines in reputation after death and who never regained popularity again

declines in reputation seems awkward; regained is in the wrong tense

(E) then has declined in reputation after death and never regained popularity
has declined in reputation after death is awkward - present perfect is not required here


I think C uses the coordinate conjunction but preceded by a comma correctly; C creates two independent clauses properly contrasted by the use of BUT that creates the desired effect of the statement - the kind of composer WHO receives popular acclaim while living, BUT whose (points to the composer properly) reputation declines after death and never regains its former status
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I will go with C as well. The use of "but" makes the sentence more meanigful.
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OA is C.

Thanks to you all.

However, official explanation says:

(B) The two clauses are not parallel, lack of coordinating conjunction, and do not describe the same thing; reduntant again.

(C) Correct. This sentence presents the proper logic while maintaining parallel structure and consistent verb tense.

Can anybody explain me why (B) is not describing the same thing and (C) is?
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Re: SC - Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer (OG11) [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2008, 17:31
i think the only error with B is "regain ... again"
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Re: SC - Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer (OG11) [#permalink] New post 16 Jan 2010, 00:45
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Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living, often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again.

(A) often goes into decline after death, and never regains popularity again

regains popularity again is redundant usage. Also, once the composer is dead, he cannot often go into decline!

(B) whose reputation declines after death and never regains its status again

... regain again is redundant usage again

(C) but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status

(D) who declines in reputation after death and who never regained popularity again

declines in reputation seems awkward; regained is in the wrong tense

(E) then has declined in reputation after death and never regained popularity
has declined in reputation after death is awkward - present perfect is not required here


I think C uses the coordinate conjunction but preceded by a comma correctly; C creates two independent clauses properly contrasted by the use of BUT that creates the desired effect of the statement - the kind of composer WHO receives popular acclaim while living, BUT whose (points to the composer properly) reputation declines after death and never regains its former status

tks for your detailed explanation! It helps me a lot!
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Re: SC - Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer (OG11) [#permalink] New post 31 Aug 2011, 04:15
Besides option C no other option uses a fitting contrasting word (which is required to have emphasis on different parts of life of such composers)
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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 31 Mar 2012, 21:43
use of contrasting word 'but' is very crucial here. rest of mostly have wrong modifications
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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 01 Apr 2012, 02:19
I'd also go with C. Obviously the composer doesn't decline after death, but his reputation does. But stresses the change in the reputation from life to the time after death.
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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2013, 21:03
I am not clear about the referent of "Its". Pls help me in this regard. Thanks
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Re: [#permalink] New post 04 Sep 2013, 21:37
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OA is C.

Thanks to you all.

However, official explanation says:

(B) The two clauses are not parallel, lack of coordinating conjunction, and do not describe the same thing; reduntant again.

(C) Correct. This sentence presents the proper logic while maintaining parallel structure and consistent verb tense.

Can anybody explain me why (B) is not describing the same thing and (C) is?


"Do not describe the same thing" refers to the fact that the two clauses are joined by "and" which is a coordinating conjunction, but the two clauses do not describe two "situations"/actions which are similiar, but rather different at least in time... so the two clauses need a subordinate conj...

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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 30 Jan 2014, 00:04
What is the subject of this sentence?
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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2014, 02:38
Hi,
Here we are looking for parallelism between 'receives' and 'reputation declines and regains'.
Rule of FANBOYS says : IC , FANBOY , IC
here in correct choice C there is no IC in second clause. C choice is : 'but whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status.'
here structure is :
Joachim....living(IC) ,But (FANBOY) whose...status(DC).
here whose indicates DC clause,but we need a IC. Then how it is correct?
Due to this I feel B is better though it has regain and again in same sentence which can be an error.
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Hi Karan,

You are looking for three parallel items on a single list, but according to the meaning of the sentence, the three items can't be part of the same list, because the first item refers to the composer whereas the next two items refer to the composer's reputation. So, it doesn't make logical sense to place all three as part of the same list, and we need two separate clauses here. (Also, even if we take all three items to be part of a single list, we still can't identify option B as correct because the third item is not an IC even in option B. In this option, the last item is "never regains", so there's no subject that can be parallel to "who" and "whose reputation".)

So, as option C correctly shows, we need the conjunction "but" to create a new clause that is about the composer's reputation (not the composer). Then, we need "and" to join the verbs "declines" and "regains".

So, option C is fine. Note that the 'comma + conjunction + independent clause' structure is not always applicable, so follow the logic and the intended meaning of the sentence at all times.

I hope this helps!

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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2014, 10:52
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Hi Karan,

You are looking for three parallel items on a single list, but according to the meaning of the sentence, the three items can't be part of the same list, because the first item refers to the composer whereas the next two items refer to the composer's reputation. So, it doesn't make logical sense to place all three as part of the same list, and we need two separate clauses here. (Also, even if we take all three items to be part of a single list, we still can't identify option B as correct because the third item is not an IC even in option B. In this option, the last item is "never regains", so there's no subject that can be parallel to "who" and "whose reputation".)

So, as option C correctly shows, we need the conjunction "but" to create a new clause that is about the composer's reputation (not the composer). Then, we need "and" to join the verbs "declines" and "regains".

So, option C is fine. Note that the 'comma + conjunction + independent clause' structure is not always applicable, so follow the logic and the intended meaning of the sentence at all times.

I hope this helps!

Regards,
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Thanks Meghna. for explanation ..

If option B is stated in such manner:
Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living and whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status ..

Is this sentence right ..
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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 12 Feb 2014, 11:08
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Thanks Meghna. for explanation ..

If option B is stated in such manner:
Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind of composer who receives popular acclaim while living and whose reputation declines after death and never regains its former status ..

Is this sentence right ..


You're welcome. :-)

This version is better than the existing option, but the contrast between the acclaim and the decline in popularity is better expressed through "but" rather than "and".

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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 11 Apr 2014, 03:45
I crossed C off the list because I don't understand how a reputation can regain a status. A reputation can be regained by an object, but how does a reputation regain status. In my mind it is not an object that can 'do' anything.

Is Joachim Raff's reputation also going to take a dog for a walk? Perhaps it can do my dishes.

I didn't like choice A, with 'regains popularity again' repeating the 'again' - however I felt that was less of an issue than reputation regaining a status.

Frustrated with this question and my confusion.
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OA is C.

Thanks to you all.

However, official explanation says:

(B) The two clauses are not parallel, lack of coordinating conjunction, and do not describe the same thing; reduntant again.

(C) Correct. This sentence presents the proper logic while maintaining parallel structure and consistent verb tense.

Can anybody explain me why (B) is not describing the same thing and (C) is?


B is redundant.

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Re: Joachim Raff and Giacomo Meyerbeer are examples of the kind [#permalink] New post 26 Apr 2014, 22:36
what is the question Number in OG13?
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