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# Fuqua vs Johnson vs Tepper vs Owen vs UNC

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Fuqua vs Johnson vs Tepper vs Owen vs UNC [#permalink]  19 Dec 2013, 13:34
So,

I am going to update this at the top so people can just com in and read it and not haveto scroll through this whole thing. Also if you are getting updates and didn't want them I am sorry.

So I applied to Duke, Tepper, Vandy, UNC Cornell amd MIT. ( Pulled my Yale App)

I got in to all of them except MIT. The decision came down to Cornell vs. Duke vs. Vanderbilt.

Vanderbilt offered me 100% tuition so the decision became easy in the end. I did a cost analysis vs income analysis and it makes more sense to go to vanderbilt with the schoalrship that Duke without. I attached my cost calculator and looked at the difference in earnings. Basically this is simply looking at the tuition and interest cost. This does not take into account living expenses because I would have those at either and they were similar. This is strictly to look at total tuition cost.

I also think that Vanderbilt is on a upward trend. The new Dean and admissions staff. The amount of capital they are putting in to bringing the top talent to the school is impressive. The faculty is also impressive. The guy that invented the VIX, the cheif economist at the Fed not ot mention others. The companies I want to work for come there and the Vanderbilt alumni is unreal. Bill Bain (Vanderbilt Alumn) Started Bain, Bruce Henderson (Vanderbilt Alumn) Started Boston Consulting Group. CEO of AA, CEO of Mattel. The list goes on and on.

The City: Well this was a no brainer Durham ( not nice at all) , Ithaca (Middle of no where COLD!!!) , Nashville ( Music City , Night Life, Amazing Weather) This is not even an arguement Nashville wins!!!

The People: While Cornell had some awesome people, the people at Vanderbilt are even better. Duke is exactly what I thought Duke would be. The only thing truly drawing me there was the name and the fact that I love the b-ball team.

I can't wait to get to Owen and I hope some of you join me in the future.

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Current Student
Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns.
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Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015
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Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink]  22 Dec 2013, 12:23
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I voted Johnson because Tepper doesn't really strike me as an IB school. I looked it up and these stats confirmed it:

http://tepper.cmu.edu/recruit-tepper/mba-reports/full-time/finance/index.aspx

Six (!) Tepper students accepted an IB offer. At Johnson, of the class of 2014, 29 interned in IB, and all 29 got full-time offers. Now to be fair, there were more than 29 students recruiting for IB in that class, but the ones that were able to snag the internships also converted them into offers. Johnson isn't that much bigger than Tepper student body wise, so objectively, Johnson seems like the better bet.

What good is a $60K scholarship if you can't get the type of job you want? _________________ Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [0], given: 135 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 22 Dec 2013, 14:12 Your numbers are correct. But that may be a product of more people pursuing ib at Johnson vs tepper. Unlikely but possible. I geuss I was trying to gauge prestige and what current students in each would say, as you did. Basically tepper is paying me 60k after taxes to do a little more of my own recruiting. But, I do agree it is all for nothing if I don't get the job I want. Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 786 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 16 Kudos [?]: 315 [1] , given: 175 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 22 Dec 2013, 14:22 1 This post received KUDOS thisisatestonlyatest wrote: Basically tepper is paying me 60k after taxes to do a little more of my own recruiting. It may seem trivial, but it's very difficult to do your "own" recruiting in IB. Especially at a school of Tepper's tier. To illustrate, at Johnson, all the 1st years pretty much have to set up informationals with the second years that interned in IB. The banks talk to their second years about which first years look like good candidates, etc. Then around October, the 1st years head down to NYC every Friday to talk to the banks (and get facetime), and the banks actually make cuts throughout this process. thisisatestonlyatest wrote: But that may be a product of more people pursuing ib at Johnson vs tepper. Unlikely but possible. This may seem irrelevant to you, but it's actually backing up my point even if it's a case of students at Tepper not being interested in IB. The less students that are interested, the less chance that a bank is going to recruit at Tepper as a core school, and the less likely you'll have alumni contacts at these banks...you see where I'm going with this. I'd like to point out that I'm being objective here (i.e. not trying to toot Johnson's horn). If it was Tepper with $$vs. other top 15 school with better banking numbers, I'd choose the other school. _________________ Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [0], given: 135 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 22 Dec 2013, 14:37 That's more of the answer I was looking for. Are you doing ib? I definitely understand what you are saying. I also feel like tepper's finance program takes some of the banking candidates out oh the MBA and in to the mscf program. I loved Johnson but 60k definitely makes you think. Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 786 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 16 Kudos [?]: 315 [1] , given: 175 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 22 Dec 2013, 19:48 1 This post received KUDOS thisisatestonlyatest wrote: That's more of the answer I was looking for. Are you doing ib? I definitely understand what you are saying. I also feel like tepper's finance program takes some of the banking candidates out oh the MBA and in to the mscf program. I loved Johnson but 60k definitely makes you think. I'm not doing IB - this is what I've observed from my classmates. Also keep in mind that IB doesn't automatically equal NYC. A bunch of my classmates organized a trek down to Houston to meet with banks. There's strength in numbers. 60K is nothing to sneeze at, but if you land an IB job after graduation, it'll be pretty trivial. _________________ Manager Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Posts: 169 Location: India GPA: 4 WE: Medicine and Health (Health Care) Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 43 [1] , given: 84 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 02 Jan 2014, 23:30 1 This post received KUDOS thisisatestonlyatest wrote: Here we go. I have an offer from Tepper with a 60k scholarship and an admittance to Johnson. My back ground is commercial banking and 1 year ar at a hedge fund. Post MBA I want to get into investment banking first and foremost or asset managment "backup". Which school should I choose? One had limited debt the other closer to NY. Any advice would be awesome. Go for Johnson Thanks _________________ Thanks for Posting LEARN TO ANALYSE +1 kudos if you like Current Student Joined: 13 Jul 2013 Posts: 51 Location: United States Concentration: General Management Schools: Tepper '16 (M) GMAT 1: 720 Q47 V42 GPA: 3.45 WE: Business Development (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 15 [2] , given: 8 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 30 Jan 2014, 05:45 2 This post received KUDOS I think it depends on your current financial situation. Since you have background in finance, you're not really making that big of a career jump, and I don't think either of these schools scream IB. So ignoring the perks of fit/community/etc that each school may bring... If the 60k is important to you financially, I think Tepper will get you there, and I don't think you'd have a problem getting into IB after. If I were in your situation, I'd take the 60k and go to Tepper. When banks recruit at Tepper, they'll be coming in from NYC. They're not going to rush home like they might in Ithaca since it's only 3-4 hours away. You may have more time and access to them during recruiting events. Plus, Tepper's a smaller school, you may stick out more. Just a few things to think about. Intern Joined: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 28 Concentration: Strategy, Technology Schools: Goizueta '15 (D) GMAT 1: 640 Q47 V32 GMAT 2: 640 Q47 V32 GMAT 3: 730 Q49 V40 WE: Information Technology (Computer Software) Followers: 2 Kudos [?]: 15 [1] , given: 9 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 31 Jan 2014, 17:19 1 This post received KUDOS I would suggest you reach out to Johnson and 'politely' request again for any scholarship money and indicate you are really inclined to be there. 60K is nothing to scoff about. One other thing to compare apart from all the recruitment, fit ... is the total cost of attendance and see how much of a difference 60K is going to be. (I've read somewhere that Tepper is a little pricier.) Read this to see if it helps. http://julianneharty.blogspot.com/search/label/debt Current Student Status: Too close for missiles, switching to guns. Joined: 23 Oct 2012 Posts: 786 Location: United States Schools: Johnson (Cornell) - Class of 2015 WE: Military Officer (Military & Defense) Followers: 16 Kudos [?]: 315 [1] , given: 175 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 01 Feb 2014, 11:23 1 This post received KUDOS Dan8294 wrote: When banks recruit at Tepper, they'll be coming in from NYC. They're not going to rush home like they might in Ithaca since it's only 3-4 hours away. You may have more time and access to them during recruiting events. Plus, Tepper's a smaller school, you may stick out more. Just a few things to think about. This isn't the reality. IB on campus recruiting is ALOT different from other fields, and it's very grueling. A bank may come once or twice to campus - but the real recruiting happens on Fridays at the banks. In fact banks make cuts DURING the process. They'll literally just stop inviting some candidates back. It's not your typical cover letter and resume on campus drop. _________________ Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [1] , given: 135 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 05 Feb 2014, 06:51 1 This post received KUDOS So now I have an even bigger dilemma. Johnson gave me a small scholarship, Vanderbilt came in with 75-80% scholarship, Carnegie Mellon is reviewing their offer and UNC took me off the waitlist and is going to give me fellowship info on Monday, if I get any. Side note my sister is going to undergrad at UNC so it would be awesome to be there for two years with her. I am aiming at doing I.B. but I also have a pretty neat idea for a start-up and I think I might end up scratching that itch. So, the real decision is a school that has a good i.b. track record and also has a really good entrepreneurship set up. So, if I do a start up the capital would be a big plus i.e. scholarship. But, I sitll want to go to the best school possible and the school with the best fit. I still have applications out at duke, mit and yale. So I will update as the situation progresses. Oh and thanks for all the feedback. I do actually take it all in. Current Student Joined: 13 Jul 2013 Posts: 51 Location: United States Concentration: General Management Schools: Tepper '16 (M) GMAT 1: 720 Q47 V42 GPA: 3.45 WE: Business Development (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 15 [0], given: 8 Re: Johnson vs Tepper 60k Schoalrship [#permalink] 10 Feb 2014, 10:28 CobraKai wrote: Dan8294 wrote: When banks recruit at Tepper, they'll be coming in from NYC. They're not going to rush home like they might in Ithaca since it's only 3-4 hours away. You may have more time and access to them during recruiting events. Plus, Tepper's a smaller school, you may stick out more. Just a few things to think about. This isn't the reality. IB on campus recruiting is ALOT different from other fields, and it's very grueling. A bank may come once or twice to campus - but the real recruiting happens on Fridays at the banks. In fact banks make cuts DURING the process. They'll literally just stop inviting some candidates back. It's not your typical cover letter and resume on campus drop. With this in consideration, I would reach out to current SY's at Johnson and Tepper that are doing IB and see how they're doing with recruiting and what types of offers they're getting. Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [6] , given: 135 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 10 Feb 2014, 11:43 6 This post received KUDOS So, as of now, unless yale, Duke or MIT come in with a good offer I am going to Vanderbilt. I know this seems crazy to most people but they have everything I want. A great school , great students, great professors and a great staff. I like the small cohort and I feel like I could make a big impact there. At other schools I feel like a number and a stats booster not a person. The companies I want to work for actively recruit on campus. Citi is core, wells, boa, credit suise and sun trust all recruit on campus. Not to mention a few people a year go to goldman. In such a small cohort, to land at all these companies is impressive. I would say it is broad and shallow placement as compared to most schools which are narrow and deep at select companies. I also feel like the school is on the rise. The new dean came from tuck the head of admissions and recruiting came from Tuck and the school is putting a lot of effort into becoming a top 20 staple. They also have a great entrepreneurship center which I think I will take advantage of. Well that's all i have. CMU: the extra 33k is not worth it to me. They have no i.b. recruiting that come to campus.... The entrepreneurship is awesome but so is having 33k more to start a company. Cornell: well 80k is a lot to pay for the slight defference in rakning. I know most of you will laugh but seriously its not H,S,W, its Cornell. I know with my background , gmat and vanderbilt's help i will land an i.b. spot at a bulge if I want it. Why the hell would I pay an extra 80k to do it. Yeah moelis and some of the boutiques are out but thats cool. Plus I'd rather be in charlotte, atlanta or houston making 200-300 a yr than in manhattan making 200-300 a yr... I think I've come to the conclusion that, outside the top 5 go to a school were you can get where you want to be for the least amount. Thanks for the input. Last edited by thisisatestonlyatest on 19 Apr 2014, 08:07, edited 3 times in total. Fuqua Thread Master Joined: 08 Feb 2014 Posts: 158 GMAT 1: 700 Q48 V37 GMAT 2: 730 Q48 V42 GPA: 3.5 WE: Other (Non-Profit and Government) Followers: 1 Kudos [?]: 75 [0], given: 18 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 10 Feb 2014, 12:19 Wow, congrats on making the decision. Awesome that you were more interested in fit instead of rankings. FWIW, I was leaning towards Tepper, but CobraKai convinced me for Johnson. Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [1] , given: 135 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 10 Feb 2014, 12:46 1 This post received KUDOS politricks wrote: Wow, congrats on making the decision. Awesome that you were more interested in fit instead of rankings. FWIW, I was leaning towards Tepper, but CobraKai convinced me for Johnson. Yeah, people kept saying go to the highest ranked school.... Its ridiculous really. Go to the best school that gets you were you want to be with the least debt. Everyone says well the higher rank school will pay off in the end. Not really. If I go to JPM from Vanderbilt or Cornell the 100k difference is going to be impossible to pay off. Not to mention the compounding interest. In my eyes I am pretty much the same candidate coming out of either. Again (H,W,S) is different but aside from those it doenst matter. I still have the same work experience , the same work ethic, same personality, same GMAT score on my resume just a different name at the top of the paper. I think top recruits at any school are going to get looks at any school that companies come to campus. Remember that when you are applying... Moderator Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 1227 Location: India Concentration: Strategy GMAT 1: 740 Q49 V42 GPA: 3.8 WE: Engineering (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 88 Kudos [?]: 923 [0], given: 116 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 13 Feb 2014, 08:04 A humble request... If you could withdraw your applications at UNC and Tepper, that would help me twice.. thisisatestonlyatest wrote: politricks wrote: Wow, congrats on making the decision. Awesome that you were more interested in fit instead of rankings. FWIW, I was leaning towards Tepper, but CobraKai convinced me for Johnson. Yeah, people kept saying go to the highest ranked school.... Its ridiculous really. Go to the best school that gets you were you want to be with the least debt. Everyone says well the higher rank school will pay off in the end. Not really. If I go to JPM from Vanderbilt or Cornell the 100k difference is going to be impossible to pay off. Not to mention the compounding interest. In my eyes I am pretty much the same candidate coming out of either. Again (H,W,S) is different but aside from those it doenst matter. I still have the same work experience , the same work ethic, same personality, same GMAT score on my resume just a different name at the top of the paper. I think top recruits at any school are going to get looks at any school that companies come to campus. Remember that when you are applying... _________________ Did you find this post helpful?... Please let me know through the Kudos button. Thanks To The Almighty - My GMAT Debrief GMAT Reading Comprehension: 7 Most Common Passage Types Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [0], given: 135 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 13 Mar 2014, 10:44 Well duke just jacked my decision all up. Ill let you know by saturday where i am going. Current Student Joined: 13 Jul 2013 Posts: 51 Location: United States Concentration: General Management Schools: Tepper '16 (M) GMAT 1: 720 Q47 V42 GPA: 3.45 WE: Business Development (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 15 [0], given: 8 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 13 Mar 2014, 11:57 thisisatestonlyatest wrote: Well duke just jacked my decision all up. Ill let you know by saturday where i am going. Just curious - what was the offer from Duke? Current Student Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Posts: 132 Concentration: Finance, Sustainability GMAT 1: 750 Q49 V42 GMAT 2: Q V0 WE: Analyst (Commercial Banking) Followers: 9 Kudos [?]: 73 [0], given: 135 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 13 Mar 2014, 12:29 Dan8294 wrote: thisisatestonlyatest wrote: Well duke just jacked my decision all up. Ill let you know by saturday where i am going. Just curious - what was the offer from Duke? just admitted no money. The recruiting there is unbelievable and its my dream school. I slept with a duke pillow since I was 2. I'm not completely sold but I'm leaning toward duke. Plus I'm from here and my wife is also. I could prob save 500-700 a month on rent and I could be a Cameron crazy. Current Student Joined: 13 Jul 2013 Posts: 51 Location: United States Concentration: General Management Schools: Tepper '16 (M) GMAT 1: 720 Q47 V42 GPA: 3.45 WE: Business Development (Energy and Utilities) Followers: 0 Kudos [?]: 15 [0], given: 8 Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 13 Mar 2014, 12:45 thisisatestonlyatest wrote: Dan8294 wrote: thisisatestonlyatest wrote: Well duke just jacked my decision all up. Ill let you know by saturday where i am going. Just curious - what was the offer from Duke? just admitted no money. The recruiting there is unbelievable and its my dream school. I slept with a duke pillow since I was 2. I'm not completely sold but I'm leaning toward duke. Plus I'm from here and my wife is also. I could prob save 500-700 a month on rent and I could be a Cameron crazy. Considering your location, career goals, and personal connection to the school, if I were you, I'd go with Duke. If you're in the Southeast and making 150k+, you could crush the debt in no time if you want to. Owen's a good school, but I don't think that the scholarship is worth it in this situation since your career goals are so firm. Tell the Adcom at Duke your situation with the other schools, tell them that Duke's your dream school (I'm assuming that it is), maybe they'll give you a partial scholarship or something. Re: Johnson 8% vs Tepper 60% vs Owen 80% vs Kenan Flagler (?) [#permalink] 13 Mar 2014, 12:45 Go to page 1 2 Next [ 25 posts ] Similar topics Replies Last post Similar Topics: Vanderbilt (Owen)$$ vs Duke (Fuqua) 3 13 Mar 2015, 12:43 11 Help!! Tepper vs Kenan-Flagler vs WUSTL Olin ($) vs Owen ($) 15 27 Dec 2014, 21:06 Johnson vs Tepper vs Mendoza 7 26 Mar 2014, 14:32 Owen$$vs Ross$ vs UNC no \$ 4 13 Mar 2014, 13:28
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