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# Joined The 700 Club (Barely) - 700 (Q:49, V:35)

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05 Jun 2003, 14:35
Hi folks,

I wrote the GMAT for the second time on May 30. I had cancelled my scores the first time thinking I had completely bombed it due to a combination of nerves and a lack of sleep the night before (see http://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=745 for more details). I made sure to schedule my subsequent test during the afternoon session.

The essays were fairly standard - as mentioned several times before, they were both pulled from the back of the OG, so I really believe it is worth spending 2-3 minutes brainstorming on each of the Issue topics, if not the Argument topics as well. I think most people find the Issue essay more difficult (especially non-native speakers), because you have to be more creative and package those thoughts coherently in a short period of time.

The quantitative section was the most interesting part of the exam. During my first test, I had some very difficult questions early on - standard deviation, 2 confusing probability questions, stats, etc. I had expected the same this time around. But by question 15, I had yet to receive even a remotely difficult question!! Mostly algebra, some arithmetic and geo, and one simple probability. I was convinced I had bombed the section. I truly believe all the questions I got were on par with the OG (maybe longer, but not harder), and certainly not as difficult as Kaplan's. I actually finished with 10 minutes to spare (not very good clock mgmt, I know). Moral of the story: don't give up, even if you're not getting more visibly difficult questions. At the end I expected a 35 - 40 score; I ended up with 49.

The verbal section was not that bad either. I started off with 5 SC in a row, followed by 2 RC back to back, and then my first CR by Q12. In total I received 4 RC passages. All were about the same level of difficulty as hard OG questions - I believe my biggest problem was my level of concentration. I am a native speaker, with fairly good English skills, but my eyes were getting sore, and I started to simply pick the first answer that sounded correct and moved on. Boredom also starts to creep in at this stage. You need to really buckle down and stay focused. I ended up with a 35, while in practice tests I was regularly scoring in the 40 range. O well.

So that's that. I thought about rewriting a third time to boost my Verbal score, but I figure the time is probably better spent on my tan and my application essays.

In terms of prep, after my first test, I purchased Kaplan's Quiz Bank 1000 online (about \$179 US) for additional practice questions. They were pretty good, but I'd say about 20% of the questions are duplicates from the Kaplan 5th Edition CD. I also bought the 3 paper-based tests from MBA.com, but they were from 1995 and 1997, and far too easy, with a lot of duplication from the OG. I do not recommend them. I looked at Barron's GMAT and Arco's Master the GMAT CAT, but they were absolute garbage and bear no resemblence to the real deal. However, Bogdan's pick of the GRE GMAT Math Review was an excellent refresher, and defintely worth the trip to the libaray/bookstore if your math is rusty.
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05 Jun 2003, 14:41
Sorry to be stupid, but what's the OG?

Where can I get these sample essay questions (arguments and issues etc)?

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05 Jun 2003, 14:46
OG -> Official Guide for GMAT Review (10th Edition)

It is published by ETS and contains about 1400 retired GMAT questions.
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05 Jun 2003, 15:53
That's great work!

I will be sorry to see you leave though.

It is sort of sad as people leave.
Thanks a bunch for posting the feedback. It is great to have the latest news from the Room.

49 is good on quant
I also thought I was failing; esp since I had to guess one and after that I got a pathetically easy question (or so i thought)

Thanks for confirming my choice of the Math Workbook

Good luck with the essays,
Come back if we can be of any help,
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06 Jun 2003, 07:41
Thanks Bogdan.

I must say this site has been invaluable to me, both in terms of sample questions and moral support. The board has acted like a 24/7 surrogate study partner, and I truly appreciate the efforts of you and your crew.

I'll be sure to come back and visit often, contributing as much as I can, and I'll post an update when I get my AWA scores back.
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06 Jun 2003, 08:32
kdog3490 wrote:
Thanks Bogdan.

I must say this site has been invaluable to me, both in terms of sample questions and moral support. The board has acted like a 24/7 surrogate study partner, and I truly appreciate the efforts of you and your crew.

I'll be sure to come back and visit often, contributing as much as I can, and I'll post an update when I get my AWA scores back.

Great!

I guess then I will see you Later,
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09 Jun 2003, 20:48
I just received my official score in the mail today. Scored a 5.5 on the AWA! I spent about 2 - 3 days preparing for it, and I wrote a few sample essays leading up to the test to get in the mindset - I never did the essays during any of my practise tests. If you're a good writer, I wouldn't worry too much about the AWA. Personally, I found the book 'GMAT CAT Answers to Real Essay Questions' fairly helpful, as it provided some good ideas for the Issue section (it contains 200 essays in total).
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10 Jun 2003, 18:12
kdog3490 wrote:
I just received my official score in the mail today. Scored a 5.5 on the AWA! I spent about 2 - 3 days preparing for it, and I wrote a few sample essays leading up to the test to get in the mindset - I never did the essays during any of my practise tests. If you're a good writer, I wouldn't worry too much about the AWA. Personally, I found the book 'GMAT CAT Answers to Real Essay Questions' fairly helpful, as it provided some good ideas for the Issue section (it contains 200 essays in total).

You're back!

That's impressive. you Kept your promise

yeah, i did not study for the AWA much either. I got 5.0 - which is though close to teh top, is still only 79th percentile

My mistake was trying to write an essay wihtout planning it out, so I screwed the first one up.

Did you do a model?
That's what I did - just came up wiht a model to fill in; a few key sentences, and the structure....

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Templates are the key for the Argument Issue, definitely. I actually finished that one with 10 minutes to spare, because the logical flaws in the statement were very obvious.

The reason I recommended the book previously was for the Issue section. In practice, I would read some of the statements and waste 15 mins. thinking about what to write and how to structure my response. Reading other essays provides alternative arguments (and counter-arguments) to easily build some content into your writing. That said, once you finish a few essays in practice, you should be ready to rock and roll!
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# Joined The 700 Club (Barely) - 700 (Q:49, V:35)

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