Find all School-related info fast with the new School-Specific MBA Forum

It is currently 23 Jul 2014, 08:20

Close

GMAT Club Daily Prep

Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.

Events & Promotions

Events & Promotions in June
Open Detailed Calendar

Journalists are not something that can be made safe.

  Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  
Author Message
TAGS:
1 KUDOS received
Manager
Manager
User avatar
Joined: 25 May 2010
Posts: 143
Followers: 81

Kudos [?]: 355 [1] , given: 0

Journalists are not something that can be made safe.  [#permalink] New post 27 Jun 2010, 23:27
1
This post received
KUDOS
00:00
A
B
C
D
E

Difficulty:

(N/A)

Question Stats:

60% (01:36) correct 40% (00:33) wrong based on 5 sessions
adalfu wrote:
SaraiGMAXonline wrote:
Journalists are not something that can be made safe. Pronoun ambiguity arises when there is more than one logical referent for a pronoun, causing the sentence to have two different possible, logical meanings.
-Sarai


I would normally agree with that, but sometimes I feel unsure if that rule above can be generalized....

consider the following SC from OG12 (spoiler alert here...):

A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses ...; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses after THEIR horns are trimed.

obviously journalists are not something that can be made safe, but isn't it quite obvious that humans don't have horns!??! so under your rule above, the THEIR should correctly and unambigously refer to rhinos? But OG12 says that THEIR could refer to the tourists as well.

the question is where I draw the line of possibile logical referent?

ack.


A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals’ horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals’ horns have been

Hi Adalfu,

I don't have the OG12 in front of me at the moment, so I don't know what they wrote in the explanation, but while the problem is here, let's break it down.

You are absolutely right that there is no way to confuse people as the referent for "their". However, when an SC problem bothers to replace a pronoun with the actual noun, the result is a clearer sentence and there'll be preference for such an answer choice. Even when a pronoun is not ambiguous, the reader does have to do the work of finding the referent, and so a sentence is always a bit clearer when the noun is used instead of the pronoun.


There are three other major issues here though:

1) Tenses: We want to indicate that the trimming precedes the visiting; this is why 'has been' is needed-- the past has to be involved in the verb.

2) If vs. Whether: IF THE SENTENCE IS NOT A CONDITIONAL, DO NOT USE 'IF'.

3) Ellipses: In B, the word 'one' means 'one rhinoceros'. But the word 'rhinoceros' does not appear in the sentence. Only the plural, 'rhinoceroses', appears, and you cannot imply a word that never shows up!

Best,
Sarai

More on conditionals in SC Lesson 8 and practice with ellipses in SC Lesson 9 at gmaxonline!
[Reveal] Spoiler: OA

_________________

Sarai
GMAT Verbal Instructor at http://www.linkedin.com/company/ofek-gmat/online-gmat-tutoring-22305743/product?trk=biz_product
Email me at saraiyaseen@gmail.com

If this helped, kindly give Kudos! :wink:

Kaplan Promo CodeKnewton GMAT Discount CodesVeritas Prep GMAT Discount Codes
Manager
Manager
avatar
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
Posts: 164
Location: India
Schools: ISB
Followers: 2

Kudos [?]: 20 [0], given: 14

GMAT Tests User
Re: Rhinoceroses [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2010, 09:13
Very well explained Sarai. I am in for C as well

_________________

_________________
If you like my post, consider giving me a kudos. THANKS!

Senior Manager
Senior Manager
avatar
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
Posts: 420
Followers: 4

Kudos [?]: 87 [0], given: 26

GMAT Tests User
Re: Rhinoceroses [#permalink] New post 28 Jun 2010, 09:31
Quote:
Thank you Sarai,

I got the right answer because of the tense issue (are and not have been) in (B) -- just as you clearly described above. So the take-away is that GMAC will NOT trick you with an answer choice like the following:

(F) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once their horns have been

But even if (F) was present, I would still pick (C) since the latter is the more unambiguous of the two choices. I guess that's why they ask you to pick the "best" answer of the choices given, and not necessarily the "absolute correct" choice.

_________________

kudos if you like me (or my post) :P

SVP
SVP
avatar
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
Posts: 1563
Followers: 12

Kudos [?]: 184 [0], given: 6

Re: Rhinoceroses [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 12:00
great explanation Sarai. I am in for C as well.
Director
Director
avatar
Status: Impossible is not a fact. It's an opinion. It's a dare. Impossible is nothing.
Affiliations: Chicago Booth Class of 2015
Joined: 26 Nov 2009
Posts: 995
Followers: 13

Kudos [?]: 374 [0], given: 36

GMAT Tests User
Re: Rhinoceroses [#permalink] New post 16 Jul 2010, 23:08
Kudos! Awesome explanation Sarai

_________________

Please press kudos if you like my post.

Re: Rhinoceroses   [#permalink] 16 Jul 2010, 23:08
    Similar topics Author Replies Last post
Similar
Topics:
3 Experts publish their posts in the topic LCM and GCD- can som1 suppose any safe and easy method? dimri10 4 06 Jun 2011, 23:22
It can safely be concluded that there are at least as many jyotsnasarabu 9 30 Nov 2006, 12:50
Journalist: Can you give me a summary of the novel you are sonaketu 12 25 Aug 2005, 23:35
It can safely be concluded that there are at least as many WinWinMBA 5 31 May 2005, 13:46
Display posts from previous: Sort by

Journalists are not something that can be made safe.

  Question banks Downloads My Bookmarks Reviews Important topics  


GMAT Club MBA Forum Home| About| Privacy Policy| Terms and Conditions| GMAT Club Rules| Contact| Sitemap

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group and phpBB SEO

Kindly note that the GMAT® test is a registered trademark of the Graduate Management Admission Council®, and this site has neither been reviewed nor endorsed by GMAC®.