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Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
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eeeeeeeeeee.....MATT, you have decided to kill my sleep today!

Going with "B".
I think "just because" is not idiomatic.
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Very much confused between A and B.
Somehow not able to reject A..
So would go with A
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Only B uses the correct "past perfect tense" on both sides
And describes the contrast correctly. So I go with B.
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A is missing the past perfect tense. C, D, and E distort the meaning of the original sentence.

OA is (B)
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I also chose B not because of tense but because A is an incomplete because sentence with just because is not an IC and is DC . a sentence with one DC is not correct. therefore, B is correct as rest other choices are incorrect.

In terms of tense, we donot know which event preceds the other. king might have won the teritory first and failed to win the loyalty of the people later. also king might have failed to win the loyalty of people first and won the teritory later.

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A is missing the past perfect tense. C, D, and E distort the meaning of the original sentence.

OA is (B)

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Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
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I also chose B not because of tense but because A is an incomplete because sentence with just because is not an IC and is DC . a sentence with one DC is not correct. therefore, B is correct as rest other choices are incorrect.

In terms of tense, we donot know which event preceds the other. king might have won the teritory first and failed to win the loyalty of the people later. also king might have failed to win the loyalty of people first and won the teritory later.

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A is missing the past perfect tense. C, D, and E distort the meaning of the original sentence.

OA is (B)

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Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he


Moreover the tense in A should be correct, but it's disqualified for the reason you have mentioned.
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I also chose B not because of tense but because A is an incomplete because sentence with just because is not an IC and is DC . a sentence with one DC is not correct. therefore, B is correct as rest other choices are incorrect.



Professor,

Can you elaborate this a bit. I am lost :roll:
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Can you elaborate this a bit. I am lost :roll:


Same here.

"The fact that.." in B threw me off. Thought it smelled of redundancy.
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Clause has subject and verb. clauses are of two types: one independent and the other is dependent. however they can also be categorised as restrictive and non-restrictive.

Independent clause is a clause that can stand by itself where as dependent clause cannot. Look the difference.

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I also chose B not because of tense but because A is an incomplete because sentence with just because is not an IC and is DC . a sentence with one DC is not correct. therefore, B is correct as rest other choices are incorrect.
Professor, Can you elaborate this a bit. I am lost :roll:


A. Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

B. The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

A cannot stand by itself with "Just because......" where as B can do so with "The fact....".
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Professor wrote:
Clause has subject and verb. clauses are of two types: one independent and the other is dependent. however they can also be categorised as restrictive and non-restrictive.

Independent clause is a clause that can stand by itself where as dependent clause cannot. Look the difference.

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I also chose B not because of tense but because A is an incomplete because sentence with just because is not an IC and is DC . a sentence with one DC is not correct. therefore, B is correct as rest other choices are incorrect.
Professor, Can you elaborate this a bit. I am lost :roll:


A. Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

B. The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

A cannot stand by itself with "Just because......" where as B can do so with "The fact....".


I get it now! :thanks
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Professor wrote:
Clause has subject and verb. clauses are of two types: one independent and the other is dependent. however they can also be categorised as restrictive and non-restrictive.

Independent clause is a clause that can stand by itself where as dependent clause cannot. Look the difference.

giddi77 wrote:
Professor wrote:
I also chose B not because of tense but because A is an incomplete because sentence with just because is not an IC and is DC . a sentence with one DC is not correct. therefore, B is correct as rest other choices are incorrect.
Professor, Can you elaborate this a bit. I am lost :roll:


A. Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

B. The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

A cannot stand by itself with "Just because......" where as B can do so with "The fact....".


Vey good explanation Prof :good
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