Kellogg 2012 - Calling All Waitlist Applicants

Also joining R2 waitlist, for those of you who are currently on the wait list, would you consider re-taking GMAT if your quant score was low (66%)?

I wanted to ask the WL officer, but it says not to contact them until the week of April 3, which would def be too late to hit the April 16th decision.

What do you all think?

Just spent a while going through the whole 2011 thread. Makes for some pretty depressing reading about people hanging on by a thread and receiving very little in the way of communication. But quite a few people got admitted, most were after rd1/2 deposits were due, after rd3 deposits were due and well into summer. Best of luck all.

I read it too....not necessarily a whole lot to be optimistic about but it does show it's not the end of the world yet. One encouraging thing was there were 2 or 3 people admitted with very similar backgrounds to me (of course every year is completely different). Some of the final folks seemed to have gotten in towards the end of August, so we could potentially have another 5 months of this.

It seems like most will learn by late May and it also seems that the thought of anyone really finding out by mid April is a pipe dream.

any jd/mba's in here?

Guys,

Looking at the main thread it seems like A LOT of people are being wait listed. There have been very few admits since the first day. While last year, or even in R1, it doesn't seem like Kellogg had such a large WL.

Now this could just be a sample size issue, but its also not inconceivable that top schools, that aren't H/S/W, are increasing their wait list in order to improve yield. For example, Booth seems to have increased their wait list a couple years ago and Kellogg has similar historic yield rates. If these schools have been finding that they are losing many candidates to the top 3, it makes sense that they would keep more people on the waitlist to a) to have a strong bench fill these gaps left by top candidates going elsewhere b) to give people a chance to sign elsewhere before they count against the yield.

Now this seemingly large wait list could also be a function of an incredibly talented applicant pool this round rather than an increase in size. However, when I look around at the stats of many of the fellow WL'r (although stats are only part of the picture I know), I see myself in pretty good company. Kellogg is obviously an awesome and highly competitive school, but I just don't see this many talented applicants not getting in, especially looking at the fact that there has only been one large wave of acceptances.
If a lot of people get calls later today or tomorrow, I'll change my tune and realize we are all part of an extremely competitive wait list now with as many spots as last year, but as of now, if R1 and R2 truly are similar as every school says, the admit/wait list ratio just seems to lend itself to optimism

I was on the WL round 1. My advice is to just relax until April 6 when you can speak with you WL manager. Easier said than done, but there is nothing you can do right now. I would hold of on all plans to visit or GMAT retaking - you might not need it and there is no point in stressing yourself more by planning a trip or additional GMAT studying.

Thanks! Can you talk about your conversation with the WL manager and what you were really trying to accomplish?

Question to R1 waitlist'ers. How did you you find out who your WL Manager was? Did they reach out to you, already assigned someone to you (that you found out about when you called), or was it that whoever picked the phone when you called became your WL manager?

Hi all - I've been reading lots of blogs about immediately emailing back and stating your interest and commitment to the program. Is everyone under the same impression that all dialogue should wait until the date communicated (week of April 2nd)?

HCF, thanks for putting this together, although as a small note I was WL R2. I was the first to report a WL since I got the email late at night while having trouble sleeping over my Booth waitlist earlier that day. FML.

But anyway: If I take your +20% assumption to account for under reported admits and also apply it to the BTG number you apply, that means there are roughly 180 admits so far between BTG and GC. Using last year's yield and a class size of 655, Kellogg admitted roughly 1100 students last year (the front page says 1112). Therefore BTG and GC admits represent roughly 16% of the admitted class so far (this may be high since some people likely post on both sites and would be double counted).

If we assume that BTG and GC combined represent 1/5 of acceptees (I think a fair assumption that may be higher since we are talking about people with good enough applications to get in and the two largest forums out there) that means we have roughly 900 acceptees so far. If Kellogg repeats its traditional yield of around 60% that leaves 115 spots for the class of 2014 (give or take). If we expect the yield on the waitlist to be higher, say 75% (which is north of Wharton's yield), that leaves roughly 150 more admits from the waitlist and R3. Again if we apply the 20% rule that means there are roughly 500 people on the waitlist plus R3 applicants for 150 spots. On its surface a 500 person waitlist seems way too high but we'll leave it for now.

That seems like fairly decent odds to be honest, even with what seems to be a very overstated waitlist number of 500. I honeslty have no idea how many apps come in for round 3 but given how many people typically get in from that round, it has to be de minimus. Even if we say there are 100 great aps from R3 that are as solid as the waitlisted R1 and R2 folks, we still have a 25% chance of getting in. In actuality the chance may be much higher.

And this is with me making assumptions that skew towards us not getting in. The only assumption that you could debate that hurts our chances is my assumption that 20% of applicants post on BTG and GC. However even if that is high, its likely at least partially counterbalanced by my other assumptions.