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So, I have been hearing a lot of fuss about this whole background check.

I was wondering if any of you guys have been through Kroll check? What all schools use these checks and how do they go about approaching the background checks?
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I've competed in half-marathons few years ago but unfortunately can't find my medals. Would it be an issue if the AdCom/Third Party companies (Kroll) as me to prove my claim about competing in half-marathons?
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Yes they will definitely question why your medals are not important enough to store in a safe place, yet you put them on your resume. Also, they will most likely have you compete in the Semi-Annual Kroll MBA Verification Half-Marathon to prove you can actually finish it in the time stated on your resume.
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Is it possible for Kroll to figure out where I hid the body?

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Kroll is a pain and it's the source of a lot of anxiety. Everyone says that you have nothing to worry about if you didn't lie on your resume and application. That's true, but the source of anxiety comes from a bunch of hypothetical "what if" type scenarios that go through your head. It also looks like all major schools are using Kroll now (including UCLA, Berkeley, and Wharton in my experience).

In my case, one of the companies that I worked for went eventually went out of business. I left before they went out of business but I still had no HR phone number to provide in my application so I just wrote "N/A company went out of business".

When you fill out Kroll, you want to make sure that you write exactly the same info as you wrote in your application. Any changes and it's a red flag so I made sure that I did exactly that.

I filled out Kroll right away and they called my current employer about an hour after I filled out the web site (yes, they are fast!).

About a week later, I received mail from Kroll with their results saying that they couldn't get in touch with that company that went out of business. They also stated that all phone numbers on public records were incorrect since they were out of business. But they didn't explicity write that it failed or anything like that.

Everyone around me was telling me that it's probably not a big deal and I didn't think it would be either (after all, I had a plausible explanation). But it could be a pain to verify my salary at the time and bonus received, etc. if I have to try to dig up old tax returns or paycheck stubs, etc.

The problem in my case was that my school didn't notify me of the results for like a month! I know that I could have contacted them but I also didn't want to sound like I did something wrong (because I hadn't). But I was sweating bullets because it was taking so long. In they end, I didn't hear anything other than a simple "You passed the Kroll background check" and it ended at that about a month after I started the whole Kroll process. I heard cases where it was confirmed in a day or in a few days, etc. so it was making me more nervous. My recommendation for all schools is that if you're going to use a background check as the final hurdle for a student to get in, you should give your feedback to the student ASAP since this is such a topic of anxiety. I actually had about a week of sleepless nights over this because I was going through the whole scenario of "what if i fail? how am i going to explain this to work and everyone who thinks i'm going to business school, etc..."

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Columbia does Kroll, and I recently submitted my form that allows them to check my background. It is nothing to worry about, as long as you have not lied. When you go on to the Kroll website your information comes up, such as your education background, your current employer, starting sal, current sal, your recommender's information, and your personal information. You can change the information if it is incorrect, but any change will be reported. In my case, they had my starting position incorrect, so I changed it. No idea why they had it wrong, since it was correct on my app. Probably a typo when Kroll entered everything in. Once you verify everything, you pay a fee, and I think they use your credit card info to check your credit. Basically, they are checking your credit info through your credit card, your current employment, your recommender's existence, your education history, and your criminal background through your personal information.

They called my recommender, and they asked him about my current employment (salary, position, bonus), which surprised me because supervisors might not know this detail nor would they want to be bothered with it since it is an HR issue. After calling your surpervisor, I have no idea what they do as they delve into your background. The process can be fast or slow, it all depends on how smoothly they get the informaiton. But, it does not matter, if you have nothing to worry about. If there is something that comes up that does not seem right, they will let you know and ask for an explanation. They've spent a lot of time admitting you, so they are not going to let you go without a fight. If you lied, say you put that your bonus was $20,000 when it was really $5,000 then you will have some major explaining to do. That is when you should worry. Otherwise, no sweat! Honesty is the best policy!
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Today I received an email saying that my Kroll background check is complete, and that, in so many words, I am good to go! They make it sound like I am accepted for the second time. It's a good feeling.
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Yes, the background check was done after the deposit was paid. I actually have never heard of anyone failing the background check other than maybe a couple of students that are always mentioned from Wharton in various forums. I don't know how it works if you fail the background check (whether you get your deposit back or not).

I would have thought that minor discrepancies (typos, etc.) would be ok as they really wanted to filter out people who blatantly lied (say you went to Harvard when you didn't, or say that you worked at McKindsey when you didn't, etc.).

For most programs, they verify just a few things:
1) college degree (you got a degree from the school you say that you did) and maybe your GPA.
2) last 2-3 jobs were accurate. by accurate, some just check that you worked there but others may check your title, salary, and bonus pay with HR.

that's about it. i have never heard of them doing an exhaustive check for things such as extra-curriculars (were you really the president of the chess club?), hobbies (are you really a karate black belt), sports (are you really an avid golfer and skier), etc.

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Ok, clubbers, here is what you might find interesting - see pages 21-23 (http://www.bitsinfo.org/downloads/Publi ... bcheck.pdf) :shh :P
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I didnt pass the cfa level one exam the 1st time. I'm planning on giving it in december. if I dont mention failing once, ut mention giving the exam, does that matter?

As well do the schools that perform Kroll; checks do it on all students or a few randomly.


they check all students (not random checks).

i dno't think they'll care about your cfa exam.
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I didnt pass the cfa level one exam the 1st time. I'm planning on giving it in december. if I dont mention failing once, ut mention giving the exam, does that matter?


I wouldn't do either. You are not required to mention you failed. Bringing attention to it makes them wonder why you failed. CFA 1 is a fairly difficult test, but a lot of their applicants will have passed one or more of the levels. Do you want to be known as the guy who failed? Instead just say that you are a L1 Candidate for December. That sounds a lot more positive.
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I didnt pass the cfa level one exam the 1st time. I'm planning on giving it in december. if I dont mention failing once, ut mention giving the exam, does that matter?


I'm not sure why you'd want to put that on your application. I can understand if you've passed Level 1, and you're an L2 candidate. But if you haven't passed any levels and failed one time, I would just not put anything regarding the CFA.
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When is background check performed? Right after admission offer is accepted and depost is paid or later?

It would be so taxing to wait anxiously for background check after being admitted..


That depends entirely on the school. A lot of them do them in the spring and then there are the ones like Cornell who do them two weeks before classes start.
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When is background check performed? Right after admission offer is accepted and depost is paid or later?

It would be so taxing to wait anxiously for background check after being admitted..


That depends entirely on the school. A lot of them do them in the spring and then there are the ones like Cornell who do them two weeks before classes start.


Haha ariel... yeah good old Kroll :P
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Haha ariel... yeah good old Kroll :P


Lol GoBruin, good times! Lucky you Ross is a very reasonable school :>
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Can any current student shed some light on this? they hire Kroll to do background checks. student must fill out a "data-sheet" (whatever that means) then kroll will do the rest.

What is asked in this "data sheet" and how do they go about verifying employment?
Do they just verify current employment, last 2 jobs, all jobs?
How do they do so, do we give them the contact info of your supervisor and they call/email them, or do they randomly call the public number listed for the company and ask to be connected to HR?
What if your file is not in the HR records, are you basically screwed?
What else do they ask the employer: job title, salary, etc?


what kroll verifies varies from school to school. The data sheet is information from your application that the school provides to kroll. so, maybe your school wants to verfiy your last two jobs...that information should be in the data sheet and your job is to make sure that the phone numbers/your job title/salary/etc is all accurate. Once you check that form, then you submit it to kroll with your payment (you have to pay to get your info verified).

i am still going through the process myself...but my assumption is that if the data sheet only asks you to verify the information you put in your application with regard to your current employer ONLY, then kroll will ONLY call your current employer. i could be wrong. but apparently columbia only verifies current employer and my data sheet only asked me to confirm information regarding my current employment.

with regards to recommendations, i don't know...i doubt it though.

and my previous employer has no hr records of me either. but, if its in the data sheet, i think you can provide the phone number of someone there (supervisor/someone higher ranking than you) instead and kroll can verify that way.
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My guess is they'd want to verify that the company exists and that it does what you claim it does, at the scale you say it does, probably by asking to talk to a client or supplier or something. Or they may want to see some sort of tax records, receipts, or sales records, something like that.

Don't worry, you're not the first small business owner to apply to business school, I'm sure Kroll and the schools know how to get the information they need.
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I wonder how they will verify a self-employed applicant. I have been working in my family startup and we do not have any HR dept. We only have a single office phone and most of the employees use thr respective cell phones to communicate. If they call the client's HR dept then they wont be given any detail but if they call my recommender then they will be able to get details. I am wondering what if they call up few times and nobody picks up phone from my office (it wont be the first time :) ).


They'll ask you for help getting in touch with someone at your job. I had a similar situation when they had some trouble reaching someone at one of my part-time jobs, so I got an email asking me to have someone from there contact the Kroll rep.


I wonder what happens for those of those that run our own company where we are the only full-time employee :roll:


If it serves as any indication, MIT (who, along with Kellogg, does their verification with ReVera, not Kroll), says that in those cases they will ask for the certificate of incorporation and perhaps other documents.
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i understand what yr saying
but i know that it is virtually impossible to get salary numbers from the HR !

What questions dis kroll ask on the inout data sheet?
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I talked with the assistant director of admissions at Fuqua regarding the Kroll background check. Of course I didn't come out and just straight ask her, but mentioned all the little things I still needed to do now that the school has admitted me into the program. She said that the background check is very basic, at least in Fuqua's case.

So Kroll will check your current work, your education history, any licenses/professional designations, one recommender, public records, credit history, and current salary (through contact with your company). Kroll will ask for the contact details to make these checks, your personal details so they can check your credit details, and your consent. The conversation with your company should literally take a couple minutes and just confirm what you’ve already reported. Finally, they charge you about $100 for the check. She pretty much came out and said it really was no big deal (almost exactly what she said).

When you get down to it, for the small price you are paying, how much of a check do you really think they will do? They aren’t likely to sic some investigative guru on your one little case when they have countless thousands to process. So unless you lied outright on your application, it's all good.
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Hi, I thought I should chime in here.

Kroll is divided into various divisions and they each manage differing levels of what can broadly be described as "investigations." They range from background checks for entry-level hires at corporations, to client on-boarding reviews (done by compliance officers) at multinationals, to very tailored special-situation investigations where their staff are hired out at very high rates (big law/MC rates, something like $800 an hour).

Business schools want to make sure they haven't admitted a fraud. Outright frauds are not terribly difficult to uncover when you've committed to cooperating fully with the process (ie. you agree to disclose information and authorize Kroll to carry out checks) and that's what schools are looking out for. Picture yourself as the admissions officer, and picture what kind of violation or contradiction would make them seriously question their decision to admit you. Don't worry unless you have something as serious as that (ie. your recommender doesn't exist, your company of 25 staff that you founded doesn't exist, etc).
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