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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 18 Feb 2013, 22:14
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"Land area" can mean two different things. It can mean the acreage, i.e. the number of acres, as in One MIT study claims that, in some U.S. cities, parking lots cover more than a third of the land area. It can also mean just some territory, not its size, as in Thunderstorms are well-monitored over land areas, where radar can keep an eye on their sometimes- quick development.

B and C mention the size of the land area; thus, they assume the second interpretation above. C then proceeds to use the expression "land area" in the first sense, i.e. size. Thus, C compares the size of one land area with another land area, which seems unnecessarily complicated. Now, B is more logical, yet B changes the meaning of the sentence! We can also say that the United States has a land area of about the same size as the entire Great Britain; for example, the State of Texas would qualify. A suggests that many people in Great Britain are members of hill tribes.

In D the non-idiomatic "but only four million in population" is offset by commas, which suggests that "many are members..." should make sense with the first part of the sentence: "Laos has a land area comparable to the size of Great Britain, and many are members..." Even if we rewrite the sentence to say "Laos has four million citizens, and many are members...", this still doesn't quite sound right because it is not specified, many of whom or of what. It would be better to say "Laos has four million citizens, many of whom are members..."

Basically, we are left with E. Note that "...to that of Great Britain..." makes it clear, in which sense the words "land area" are used. In this context Great Britain has one, the land area, which is a number, rather than a piece of land. The logic of the sentence still escapes me. I understand that Laos is sparsely populated, but why this detail about hill tribes? Is it saying that the mountain valleys are densely populated, thus even further lowering the population density at the accessible part of Laos?
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TomB wrote:
option C compares two countries land area properly, and there is correct referent for "population"(Laos). In option e there is no clear referent for "population". plz explain

actually, we were at the same page chosing option C. But after reviewing, C compares "size" with "land area" while E compares "land area" with "land area" ("that of"). Moreover, option E ascertains us by using the correct idiom "Laos has X but (Laos also has) Y"
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain [#permalink] New post 31 Dec 2010, 02:54
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Comparision markers == that, as for split

Correct comparision of area of two regions = E
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many. Comparing land area with Great Britain
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many. Comparing land area with Great Britain
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them. After "But" prepositional phrase which is not parallel to preceding part of the sentence
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many. Comparing land area with size ofGreat Britain
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom. correct
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain [#permalink] New post 31 Dec 2010, 12:29
option C compares two countries land area properly, and there is correct referent for "population"(Laos). In option e there is no clear referent for "population". plz explain
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain [#permalink] New post 05 Jan 2011, 20:48
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whats wrong with d

1. D compares "the land area" with "the size" while E compares "the land area" of Laos with "land area of Great Britain" by using "that of" to replace "land area"
2. Moreover D is awkward by using the construction "and many" which implies the paralel meaning while it should be the modifier of "four million in population" because these people actually are from this group.
3. In addtion, "four million in population" is not idiomatic. It should be "a population of only four million ..."
There are at least three reasons to eliminate D, i think
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain [#permalink] New post 18 Feb 2013, 09:05
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TomB wrote:
Moreover, option E ascertains us by using the correct idiom "Laos has X but (Laos also has) Y"
Hope it helps


Hi all,

For those researching answers for this question, I would like to add that "X but Y" is not an idiom to justify an answer.

There is:
Not X but Y
Not only X but Y
Not X but instead Y

The conjunction "but" typically introduces something contrary to the subject or prior( or subsequent) independent clause.
Please let me know if I'm in error. Thanks! :)
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 18 Feb 2013, 14:35
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom


this is not easy one. it takes me a long time

"with a pupulation..." in D is prepostional phrase not a absolute phrase. identifying this role help understand the meaning. when "with a population..." is a prepotion, it must refers to a noun in the main clause. This case mean , "with population..." must refers to "many of them" . This is not logic and make D wrong.

in E, "and many" is not clear in meaning. E is wrong.
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 26 Feb 2013, 16:06
regarding "that" in E.

"that" pronoun can be used in the non parallel structure like this one E.

When is it possible to do so?

when "that" is unambiguous from the context. is that right?

why this question? because in many og, non parallel with "that" is considered wrong.
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 09 Jul 2013, 12:30
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A and B incorrectly compare the land area to Great Britain. Eliminate A and B. The SC must compare apples to apples: it must compare either the two countries themselves (Laos and Britain) or the land area of one country to the land area of the other country.

D incorrectly compares land area to the size. Eliminate D.

C states that Laos has a land area...but many of them are members, incorrectly drawing a contrast between Laos (the country) and many (the people).

The correct answer is E.

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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2013, 07:26
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom


Both C and E are correct but E is concise...
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 02 Oct 2013, 11:43
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Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain vallyes of the north.
A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million, and many
C) that is about the same size as Great Britain's land area, but in Laos with a population of only four million people, many of them
D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of whom


Both C and E are correct but E is concise...


I feel option C is incorrect
Option E -- Laos has a land area .. But [ Laos has ] a population - Ok

Option C -- Laos has a land area .. , But [ Laos has ] in Laos with a population of only four million people - NOK
So we can not put [ Laos has ] in option C . That means there should be a verb after but in option C as [ Laos has ] in not implicit .

Am I right?
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We use "compared to" to compare unlike object and "compared with" to compare like objects.

Here we are comparing land area with land area so why do we have comparable to rather than comparable with?
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2013, 22:38
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We use "compared to" to compare unlike object and "compared with" to compare like objects.

Here we are comparing land area with land area so why do we have comparable to rather than comparable with?


I am pretty sure that GMAT, on any official question, has never tested this "difference". There would always be much more glaring reasons to eliminate answer choices, than this.
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2013, 22:43
Thanks, I made a not of it.

BDW I found this difference in almost all the idiom lists available online.

E.g.:
http://www.winningprep.com/GMATIdiomList.html
download/file.php?id=9880

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rohitmanglik wrote:
We use "compared to" to compare unlike object and "compared with" to compare like objects.

Here we are comparing land area with land area so why do we have comparable to rather than comparable with?


I am pretty sure that GMAT, on any official question, has never tested this "difference". There would always be much more glaring reasons to eliminate answer choices, than this.
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2013, 22:59
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I feel option C is incorrect
Option E -- Laos has a land area .. But [ Laos has ] a population - Ok

Option C -- Laos has a land area .. , But [ Laos has ] in Laos with a population of only four million people - NOK
So we can not put [ Laos has ] in option C . That means there should be a verb after but in option C as [ Laos has ] in not implicit .

Am I right?


No that is not correct. You can't break C like that. In other words, you can't put "Laos has" after "but". "but" is a coordinating conjunction that so, it can obviously join to different things.

targetdec31 has GMAT in December, but Sean has GMAT in January.

We cannot interpret this as:

targetdec31 has GMAT in December, but [targetdec31 has] Sean has GMAT in January.
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 11 Nov 2013, 23:12
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Thanks, I made a not of it.

BDW I found this difference in almost all the idiom lists available online.

E.g.:
http://www.winningprep.com/GMATIdiomList.html
download/file.php?id=9880


Also I hope you are not memorizing hundreds of idioms. I can't believe this website has idioms like "a long face".

Again, idioms is one area that will not be exclusively tested on GMAT. So, as long as you are comfortable with commonly used idioms (regard as, consider etc.), there should really be no reason to memorize the laundry list.
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 25 Nov 2013, 11:22
HI EGMAT,

Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain
but only four million in population, where many
are
members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually
inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four
million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in
Laos there is a population of only four million,
and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain’s
land area, but in Laos with a population of only
four million people, many of them
(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only
four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a
population of only four million people, many of
whom

Please highlight on why choice C is wrong. OG says here reference to them is unclear. Please highlight on this. Is them not referring people?

Thanks,
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Re: Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britain but [#permalink] New post 29 Nov 2013, 11:23
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Hi Karan,

Thank you for posting your query here. :-)

Option C can also be eliminated because it does not make the comparison clear. This choice compares the land area of Laos with the size of Great Britain's land area. To be precise, the comparison should compare the land area of Laos with "that of Great Britain,": that is, with the land area of Great Britain.

I hope this helps!

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