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Re: Learn how "THAT" can help you de-mystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 09 Sep 2012, 23:39
Hi e-gmat team.
Sentence 1 is a pretty long complex sentence. I was trying to find which one is independent & which one is dependent clause. But I am a bit confused. Need help to identify:

1. In a review of 2,000 studies of human behavior that date back to the 1940s
2. two Swiss psychologists declared
3. that since most of the studies had failed to control for such variables as social class and family size
4. none could be taken seriously.
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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 12 Sep 2012, 19:05
I would like to analyse these sentences here.

E- gmat team kindly clarify please:

Paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould has argued -- D.C
that
many biological traits are not the products of natural selection,->I.C
favored due to their enhancement of reproduction or survival, but that they are simply random by-products of other evolutionary developments. ->modifier

So Over all

I.C ,modifier





The government predicts [-- dependant clause
that,
for consumers and businesses that make a large number of long-distance calls, ] - Modifier
the Federal Communications Commission’s recent telephone rate cuts will greatly reduce costs, - Independent clause
though some consumer groups disagree with the government’s estimates, Dependant clause
suggesting they are too optimistic. - ing modiifer

My understanding is this
{D.C ,that ,(modifier), IC, D.C, ing modifier }
The part in bold above becomes a I.C
So the final equation becomes


I.C,D.C, -ing modifier.

Is this correct ?

My doubt is this :
In the examples you have quoted above
Quote:
Mary claims that she won several awards in her high school.

Mary claims (dependant clause)
that
she won several awards in her high school. ( Independant)
I hope this is right.


Can you please clarify the parts in Bold and underlined.I'm really confused about such complex sentences
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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 02 Dec 2012, 15:21
Here is my reply without looking at the OR:

QUESTION 1:
In a review of 2,000 studies of human behavior that date back to the 1940s, two Swiss psychologists, declaring that since most of the studies had failed to control for such variables as social class and family size, none could be taken seriously.

QUESTION 2
In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Iliad, a work that, taking him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Question 1:
In a review of 2,000 studies of human behavior that date back to the 1940s (
- studies of human behavior (Sub); that date back (verb phrase)
declaring that - should be declared that (that is used as a connecting phrase)

Question 2:
In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Iliad
- AP (subject); began (v)
a work that - connecting phrase
taking him seven years until completion - too him
and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

Both questions also use parallelism and modifiers.
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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 22 Dec 2012, 23:24
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Hi Shradhha,
For the sentence in your article "Mary found certain evidence that even the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI) could not find." 'that' is a connector for sure.

But,had the sentence been "Mary found certain evidence that even could not be found by the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI)." then I think 'that' is modifying the noun 'evidence' through the purple clause and is the subject of the purple clause as per "Usage 1" mentioned in this article.

Please share your feedback on this.
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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 23 Dec 2012, 01:18
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Hi e-GMAT,
This is a very solid article and I think it has very high importance in understanding the meaning of the sentence...

Here goes the right ans from me:
1.In a review of 2,000 studies of human behavior that date back to the 1940s, two Swiss psychologists declared that since most of the studies had failed to control for such variables as social class and family size, none could be taken seriously.
2.In 1713, Alexander Pope began his translation of the Iliad, a work that, took him seven years until completion, and that literary critic Samuel Johnson, Pope’s contemporary, pronounced the greatest translation in any language.

But the question were rather easy I think so it would be of great help if you can share some more OG qs. of 700+ level. BTW,Kudos for the article and look forward to seeing more qs. on this topic from you.
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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 25 Mar 2013, 03:05
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debayan222 wrote:
Hi Shradhha,
For the sentence in your article "Mary found certain evidence that even the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI) could not find." 'that' is a connector for sure.

But,had the sentence been "Mary found certain evidence that even could not be found by the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI)." then I think 'that' is modifying the noun 'evidence' through the purple clause and is the subject of the purple clause as per "Usage 1" mentioned in this article.

Please share your feedback on this.


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I'm awaiting you feedback on the above...! :)

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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 25 Mar 2013, 10:16
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debayan222 wrote:
Hi Shradhha,
For the sentence in your article "Mary found certain evidence that even the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI) could not find." 'that' is a connector for sure.

But,had the sentence been "Mary found certain evidence that even could not be found by the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI)." then I think 'that' is modifying the noun 'evidence' through the purple clause and is the subject of the purple clause as per "Usage 1" mentioned in this article.

Please share your feedback on this.


Hi Shradhha,
I'm awaiting you feedback on the above...! :)

Much appreciate your response.


Hi Debayan,

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

Mary found certain evidence that even could not be found by the Crime Scene Investigators (CSI).

In this sentence, "that" is a relative pronoun as it modifies "clues" in the preceding IC.

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Re: Learn how That can help you demystify a long sentence [#permalink] New post 25 Jan 2014, 08:03
maaadhu wrote:
Can you please explain the use of THAT in this sentence. I am confused.

Astronomers have theorized that the Big Bang governs the behavior of interstellar dust, particles that comprise the atoms and molecules created in the progenitive explosion and persisting in even the emptiest regions of space.
a)persisting
b)persists
c)persisted
d)they persisted
e)are persisting


The OA is A.


Hi Sharaddha,

Can u explain this question.
Cl 1:Astronomers have theorized. . particles
Cl 2: that the Big Bang governs the behavior of interstellar dust ( That is the connecting word)
Cl 3: that comprise the atoms and molecules created in the progenitive explosion and ("That" is the sub)
Cl 4: persisting in even the emptiest regions of space - There is no subject in this clause

so i thot OA in D. But how come OA is A.

Please explain.

Thanks in Advance,
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