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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
 28 May 2008, 10:45
jimmyjamesdonkey wrote: I'm a fluent english speaker, and when I first took the GMATprep scored a 34 in the verbal...sometimes if I'm not careful my score can slip back down to 31 as well. Native speakers are in the same boat! That's right, jimmyjamesdonkey. But I cannot even imagine touching V50-V51  . Sometimes I seem that time for only reading statements, passages, questions, and variants of the answers take more than 75 minutes  , o-o-o-o I'm crying  when I think how it could be if I read those in russian.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 10:49
But dont pay attention. fellows. I'm just complaining of real things.  I'm going to kill the test by the end of June.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 11:13
jimmyjamesdonkey wrote: My Manhattan instructor says most people go up automatically on the 2nd attempt by not doing anything....The ManhattanGMAT recommendation is you take the test twice. First time, and then wait a month and do nothing, and take it a 2nd time without practicing between the two. This makes no sense at all. Unless the instructor is talking about natural variation of 10-20 points, which is worthless anyway. Please send the instructor an e-slap for me.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 11:17
CHak de phatte!!
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 11:19
Walker, I thought i misread first. 680 is not for you buddy. You can kick ass with some more Verbal prep. I highly recommend LSAT Superprep and LSAT CRs from 1000 CRs. Let me know if I can help anyway. As I had said once.....lot of us owe you 40-50 points...I do. Sad part I cant transfer you those. Good luck for your prep and next attempt.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 11:21
Tarmac wrote: jimmyjamesdonkey wrote: My Manhattan instructor says most people go up automatically on the 2nd attempt by not doing anything....The ManhattanGMAT recommendation is you take the test twice. First time, and then wait a month and do nothing, and take it a 2nd time without practicing between the two. This makes no sense at all. Unless the instructor is talking about natural variation of 10-20 points, which is worthless anyway. Please send the instructor an e-slap for me. e-slap from me too. I worked my ass off between my 1st and 2nd GMAT and still got the same score.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 11:46
Tarmac wrote: jimmyjamesdonkey wrote: My Manhattan instructor says most people go up automatically on the 2nd attempt by not doing anything....The ManhattanGMAT recommendation is you take the test twice. First time, and then wait a month and do nothing, and take it a 2nd time without practicing between the two. This makes no sense at all. Unless the instructor is talking about natural variation of 10-20 points, which is worthless anyway. Please send the instructor an e-slap for me. thats rite, GMAC isn't the type of organisation that will give big discounts (in terms of a better score) to repeat customers  there are also numerous stories on this board of repeat test takers who got LESS the second time around! e-slap for me too please
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 15:05
walker wrote: 680 Q50V31 a short debrief. - math was good, but many problems required careful reading and were hard to understand what is asking. I guess I made one mistake in one of the first 10s questions. By the way, first three questions were easy. And, guys, drinking water before Q part was a HUGE mistake!  - verbal. SC seems to be odd, and maybe I failed to concentrate up to a required level. Moreover, some of the RC questions were too long and covered whole screen, so I had to go faster in SC and CR. Finally, I did not study so hard as it was necessary! But I will not give up! see you latter at the forum! Thank for your support! Yours Walker Walker - knowing your dedication, if anything, this has me convinced that you'll be back and stronger the next time around! 
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28 May 2008, 21:38
Guys, thanks for your words, your PMs! I guess I just must brake this wall!!! So, my thoughts what was wrong.... 1. in many SC I had no idea what is tested. When I go through SC, I rather guessing than strongly sure about answers. So, despite my average 85% in SC1000 in SC-OG, I've not built a strong SC background and have to dig deeply in grammar as well as understand not only why an answer is correct, but also why other answers are wrong. I would be very appreciate If sometimes you have time to answer to my stupid Verbal questions one more time such as: 11-t219152. Vocabulary. Problem with understanding hurt me a lot in RC, CR, SC. P.S. In quant it is just game between 50 and 51
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 22:15
Walker, I agree with you that understanding of grammar is crucial. But IMO there's one more thing you have to consider - understanding the rythm and logic of English. How the language works, sounds, means. Use "The Elements of Style" of William Strunk & White. Gooood thing indeed.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 22:19
I've NEVER scored 51 in gmat prep, even when I know half the answers ... I just cant break the 50 barrier.... For you walker - I think you should only think in terms of 51. There is at least a 10 point difference in your final gmat score if you get a 51 instead of 50. walker wrote: P.S. In quant it is just game between 50 and 51
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28 May 2008, 22:24
walker wrote: I would be very appreciate If sometimes you have time to answer to my stupid Verbal questions one more time such as: 11-t21915It's easy to crack. only 4(d) has a needed pattern "they do less ... than those did"
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 22:36
hey walker, do you have the manhattan SC guide?
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
28 May 2008, 23:45
barfer wrote: Walker, I agree with you that understanding of grammar is crucial. But IMO there's one more thing you have to consider - understanding the rythm and logic of English. How the language works, sounds, means. Use "The Elements of Style" of William Strunk & White. Gooood thing indeed. I feel that one part of English (for example speaking) can boost other parts automatically. Yeah, English is not just tricky GMAT grammar....it is a language! I'll try that book. gmatnub wrote: hey walker, do you have the manhattan SC guide? Yeah, But, frankly speaking, I did not use it often as I believed that my 85% SC performance is close to real....So, now I have to start again with this book.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
29 May 2008, 01:05
Walker, make sure you use the MGMAT SC guide WITH the OG, else the concepts won't be reinforced in your brain. Also i think lots of people concentrate on SC and CR but don't give 1/3 of their verbal time to RC. RC is the biggest problem if you are a non-native english speaker in my opinion, since if you don't understand the passage fully, instead of missing 1 question, you miss 3-4 in a row, which on an adaptive test can be fatal.
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Re: less than 24 hours left.....my 1st attempt [#permalink]
29 May 2008, 02:49
congratulations walker...you just deserve more than this...
ATB!
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29 May 2008, 03:06
incognito1 wrote: drinking water before Q part was a HUGE mistake! Haha, Walker, I understand why you shoot only 50-Math. I'm sure that you're dancing at that time so you lost 1 in the total, right?!
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29 May 2008, 03:16
Quote: I feel that one part of English (for example speaking) can boost other parts automatically. Yeah, English is not just tricky GMAT grammar....it is a language!
I'll try that book. Walker, it can boost other parts automatically but that takes many-many years of permanent speaking practice, TV watching, people listening, collaborating etc. I guess you don't have some amount of time
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29 May 2008, 07:03
thank irishspring! +1 till monday i'll finish my lsat superprep cause only the last set left. and tomorrow morning i'll try to buy an Economist as u suggested. the additional 30 points are not redundant indeed 
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29 May 2008, 07:23
Thanks guys! Thanks irishspring!
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