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Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 25 Feb 2010, 13:49
Does anyone out here know of anyone with an undergrad degree in Architecture, or even with an Architecture license, who has gone down the MBA path? If so, how has it benefited them?


The Architecture profession in America is broken and a huge reason is because the project architects are asked to manage projects and make important decisions that affect everyone in the firm. They are asked to do this while they themselves posses virtually no business training on how to do this. They receive a wonderful thought provoking conceptual education but desperately lack the business intelligence.

I am attempting to augment my architecture and urban understanding with the MBA but if I find resistance within the industry (probable) I'm not against a career change to make myself more marketable. This constant thing about starving architects, and it being a front line job that is affected by downturns every 5-7 years is not a smart career path for me to follow.

So, if anyone knows of the Architect+ MBA combo I would definitely like to know how they are doing and what door this would open.

All of my questions about how real estate projects are created and who supplies the project program to the architect are answered with- we have people that do that. Yet, when I ask the background of these people I get that they have business backgrounds.

In order to obtain an architecture license you must pass 9 exams as part of the ARE (it was recently condensed to 7) so I'm prepping for the GMAT and comparing them to my prep for the ARE.

Any advice, insight, information, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 26 Feb 2010, 15:43
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 28 Feb 2010, 14:48
So I dont know of anyone in architecture, but you have said yourself that the people leading your profession dont have MBA's and have a lack of business education. So, they are obviously getting to the higher rungs without it. If you wanted to stay in architecture I see little point in shelling out $150k for your MBA when its not needed. You can learn project management fairly easily through designations such as the PMP.

Architecture has little to do with business, or the planning behind the development project and its profitability. You will have to decide which path you are most interested in, and follow that route. If you want to be in design, stay and get your Architecture license. If you want to be on the business side, get your MBA - but that is going to take you away from pure architecture. If you are working on big projects, I cant see a person having enough bandwith to plan a project its financing etc, and then also design the whole thing. You are going to be on one aspect of the project or the other.



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Does anyone out here know of anyone with an undergrad degree in Architecture, or even with an Architecture license, who has gone down the MBA path? If so, how has it benefited them?


The Architecture profession in America is broken and a huge reason is because the project architects are asked to manage projects and make important decisions that affect everyone in the firm. They are asked to do this while they themselves posses virtually no business training on how to do this. They receive a wonderful thought provoking conceptual education but desperately lack the business intelligence.

I am attempting to augment my architecture and urban understanding with the MBA but if I find resistance within the industry (probable) I'm not against a career change to make myself more marketable. This constant thing about starving architects, and it being a front line job that is affected by downturns every 5-7 years is not a smart career path for me to follow.

So, if anyone knows of the Architect+ MBA combo I would definitely like to know how they are doing and what door this would open.

All of my questions about how real estate projects are created and who supplies the project program to the architect are answered with- we have people that do that. Yet, when I ask the background of these people I get that they have business backgrounds.

In order to obtain an architecture license you must pass 9 exams as part of the ARE (it was recently condensed to 7) so I'm prepping for the GMAT and comparing them to my prep for the ARE.

Any advice, insight, information, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 28 Feb 2010, 16:24
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So I dont know of anyone in architecture, but you have said yourself that the people leading your profession dont have MBA's and have a lack of business education. So, they are obviously getting to the higher rungs without it. If you wanted to stay in architecture I see little point in shelling out $150k for your MBA when its not needed. You can learn project management fairly easily through designations such as the PMP.

Architecture has little to do with business, or the planning behind the development project and its profitability. You will have to decide which path you are most interested in, and follow that route. If you want to be in design, stay and get your Architecture license. If you want to be on the business side, get your MBA - but that is going to take you away from pure architecture. If you are working on big projects, I cant see a person having enough bandwith to plan a project its financing etc, and then also design the whole thing. You are going to be on one aspect of the project or the other.





Thanks for your response Ginetta. Let me give you some more information.

I already have my Architecture License so I am Licensed and have passed the 9 exams necessary to be so. I have held project management positions on large projects at the firm I worked at before the recession forced many projects around the country to be put on hold. I know that there is a limited ceiling in that profession from both a financial and a satisfaction standpoint and I want more. The lack of business sensibilities in the architecture industry is forcing the profession to almost become obsolete. It's by far the most impacted by this recession.

With this being said, I am genuinely interested in the relationship between architecture and business (development). So I would say that I am interested in the business behind real estate projects yet my architecture background has allowed me to understand the correct way to build cities and design projects. I feel I have a unique combination of the two but I also have to diversify in order to survive. Everyday you are not able to work because you picked a profession where there is no work is not a smart business decision.


On the costs, my estimates are coming nowhere near the 150k cost for an MBA. I plan on attending a Major University in one of the largest cities in the USA for close a fourth of that price.
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 11 Mar 2010, 01:29
I have been in the profession for 5 yrs post grad school and have applied to bschool with the encouragement of a friend. I have received some offers already but am still contemplating the decision to switch / invest time and money.

It is definitely a tough question to ask passion vs a hopefully more stable / lucrative path. It would be great to be successful enough to one day be the client of great architecture and have a custom home!
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 30 Mar 2010, 09:03
I think it makes perfect sense for an aspiring leader in the architecture industry to enhance his knowledge of areas such as marketing and strategy. Additionally the MBA networks would be very very valuable in terms of business development (after all architects need rich clients ..)
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 08 May 2010, 11:01
Have you taken a look at some of the better Masters in Real Estate/ Real Estate Development programs that exist. They are mostly 1 year programs, except Cornell which is two years. Many people in those programs combine with an MBA. Top Schools include, MIT, Cornell, USC, and Columbia, but there are other good programs as well. Might be exactly what you are looking for to master the business side of things.
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Re: Licensed Architect + MBA opens what doors??? [#permalink] New post 23 Jul 2010, 14:58
Barium: You and I have the same position on Arch and Business. I am currently double majoring in Business and BArch. I also plan to get an MBA if my employer or career can benefit from it. You should talk with a principle of an architecture firm. They seem to be be more interested in this path than the typical employee who is not privy to what it takes to run a business. I grew up in a family owned business and always aspired to be an architect so I just went for it. I know of a young girl who obtained her BArch and went to work for a large firm who was sent to get her MBA after which they moved her into a production manager of their furniture division. We should talk, I have yet to find anyone with similar ideas so this may be a rare opportunity.
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