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Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n less than the slope of line p ?

(1) Lines n and p intersect at the point (5 , 1).
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than the y-intercept of line p.
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Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n less than the slope of line p ?

(1) Lines n and p intersect at the point (5 , 1).
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than the y-intercept of line p.


Algebraic approach:

Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n less than the slope of line p?

We have two lines: y_n=m_1x+b_1 and y_p=m_2x+b_2. Q: m_1<m_2 true?

(1) Lines n and p intersect at the point (5,1) --> 1=5m_1+b_1=5m_2+b_2 --> 5(m_1-m_2)=b_2-b_1. Not sufficient.
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than the y-intercept of line p --> y-intercept is value of y for x=0, so it's the value of b --> b_1>b_2 or b_2-b_1<0. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) 5(m_1-m_2)=b_2-b_1, as from (2) b_2-b_1<0 (RHS), then LHS (left hand side) also is less than zero 5(m_1-m_2)<0 --> m_1-m_2<0 --> m_1<m_2. Sufficient.

Answer: C.

For more on this topic check Coordinate Geometry Chapter of Math Book: math-coordinate-geometry-87652.html

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Re: Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2012, 08:13
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Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n less than the slope of line p ?

(1) Lines n and p intersect at the point (5 , 1).
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than the y-intercept of line p.


Graphic approach:

Lines n and p lie in the xy plane. Is the slope of line n less than the slope of line p?

(1) Lines n and p intersect at (5,1)
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than y-intercept of line p

The two statements individually are not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Note that a higher absolute value of a slope indicates a steeper incline.

Now, if both lines have positive slopes then as the y-intercept of line n (blue) is greater than y-intercept of line p (red) then the line p is steeper hence its slope is greater than the slope of the line n:
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If both lines have negative slopes then again as the y-intercept of line n (blue) is greater than y-intercept of line p (red) then the line n is steeper hence the absolute value of its slope is greater than the absolute value of the slope of the line p, so the slope of n is more negative than the slope of p, which means that the slope of p is greater than the slope of n:
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So in both cases the slope of p is greater than the slope of n. Sufficient.

Answer: C.
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Re: Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2012, 09:05
Bunuel,

What if line p has a negative y intercept but line n has a positive intercept? Wouldn't that give the oposite answer?
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Re: Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n [#permalink] New post 23 Feb 2012, 10:13
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Bunuel,

What if line p has a negative y intercept but line n has a positive intercept? Wouldn't that give the oposite answer?




If line p has a negative y-intercept then its slope is positive and it will still be more than the slope of n, with positive y-intercept (if the slope of n will be positive than p will still be steeper than n, and if the slope of n is negative it obviously will be less than positive slope of p). Consider first image and rotate line n (blue) so that it to have positive y-intercept and you'll easily see the answer.

Check the following links for similar questions, where different scenarios are considered:
in-the-xy-plane-is-the-slope-of-line-l-greater-than-the-126941.html
if-the-slopes-of-the-line-l1-and-l2-are-of-the-same-sign-is-126759.html
slopes-of-m-and-n-124025.html

Also check Coordinate Geometry chapter of Math Book for theory on this subject: math-coordinate-geometry-87652.html

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Re: Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n le [#permalink] New post 13 Sep 2012, 12:19
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Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n less than the slope of line p ?
(1) Lines n and p intersect at the point (5,1).
(2) The y-intercept of line n is greater than the y-intercept of line p.



Here we have two lines and two slopes
So lets first write the equations for our lovely lines

Y = mnX + Cn
Y = mpX + Cp

Now statement one says that it intersects at 5,1. SO lets put it in the equations and subtract them

We get, (mn-mp)5 = Cp-Cn that tells us nothing about the slopes of the lines or their relative values, but if we know the value of Cp-Cn that weather it is positive or negative we will know weathet mn-mp is positive or negative and that which is greater


Statement 2 Y intercept of line n is greater than p so that gives us Cn >Cp

Alone this statement is also not sufficient. it talks abou c not slopes

But if we combine the two, Voila !! we know which slope is greater.
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Re: Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n [#permalink] New post 29 Dec 2012, 09:18
I don't get it :/

what if slope of line P is positive and the slope of line N negative (but still satisfying all the condition...)
Bunuel, on your examples the slopes have the same sign... are we talking about the absolute value of the slope?
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Lines n and p lie in the xy plane. Is the slope of the line n less than the slope of line p?

(1) Lines n and p intersect at the point (5,1)
(2) The X-intercept of line n is greater than the X-intercept of line p
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Re: Lines n and p lie in the xy-plane. Is the slope of line n [#permalink] New post 29 Apr 2013, 09:07
The question which is posted differs with the statement 2...Pls do have a look at it..will the answers remain the same?
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