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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 19 Dec 2012, 10:20
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Anyone here having the internal debate between LBS vs. US schools?


have been going back and forth on this one since i got the acceptance email. having a hard time imagining myself turning down 2 years in london, but definitely have a few doubts.


Where are you accepted in the US?

I have my doubts too...
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2012, 13:38
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Anyone here having the internal debate between LBS vs. US schools?


have been going back and forth on this one since i got the acceptance email. having a hard time imagining myself turning down 2 years in london, but definitely have a few doubts.


Where are you accepted in the US?

I have my doubts too...


Was accepted at Ross today, also going to go for Kellogg, Tuck and Fuqua.
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el184 wrote:
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Anyone here having the internal debate between LBS vs. US schools?


have been going back and forth on this one since i got the acceptance email. having a hard time imagining myself turning down 2 years in london, but definitely have a few doubts.


Where are you accepted in the US?

I have my doubts too...


Yes, I am having the same debate. It's less about doubts and more about opportunities. I don't think a capable, ambitious individual has anything to complain about going to LBS. It is clear the majority of LBS students walk away with great jobs on the higher end of the compensation pool. The difference is many of those jobs are in London. It sounds like it's not impossible to find jobs in the U.S. (if that is your concern) but it's not easy either -- though career services says they make an effort to reach out to the U.S. many students, and even the admissions committee, admit the job search is more England (London) centric. Now, that being said, huge amounts of students go back to mainland Europe, Asia and Latin America as well from LBS.

I mean, if you are dead set on working in NY and you get into CBS or Stern, or something like that -- then LBS might not be the way to go. But if you are open to where you might end up, then LBS is certainly a great opportunity. In my case, I don't know where I'd like to work yet: San Francisco, Boston, London? I think a lot depends on the caliber of the schools I get into -- I am going to choose LBS over a US school outside of the top ten even if I do love Los Angeles or North Carolina, pretty much because I think the education and opportunities will be better.

Apparently, lots of Americans that do end up at LBS stay there for a few years after their MBA and then make an effort to come back to the US, or they just stay there. Some, about 15% I think, come back right after the MBA, but I imagine many of those people are coming back to previous employers or using personal connections to find jobs. Also, a quick note, it's harder for US passport holders to do semesters abroad in the US from LBS -- many of those spots are reserved for foreigners since the receiving schools want more diversity than anything else.

In my case LBS seems a perfect fit -- unless a more perfect fit comes along. Initially, I was ONLY going to apply to LBS, or really, ONLY going to take LBS seriously with everything else being a back-up but have since changed my mind. I suppose I too need US choices, and if HBS or the likes comes and says "we'd like you here" well, then, it will be very hard to ignore that.

Another thing to consider is the direction of the region, and the schools you are considering. Many Americans discount Europe as a place to work, but I would posit that London will stay a very strong job market for decades. Not to mention, the school is expanding which will allow it to increase it's brand significantly.

Look at how open you are to working internationally vs. domestically, and also how confident you are in your own network. I personally think that even if I went to LBS and decided I wanted to make it back to the US, I could find a good job opportunity just by sheer will -- but that is a big assumption, and a risky one. Yet, I am comfortable with it.
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Someone PM'd me about US vs LBS and I can't remember who it was. (Sorry by the way - I'm horribly behind on PM responses!). In any event, I figure that I'll throw in my two cents here now that it's a larger topic.

High level: I completely agree with jacorrea. For me, I am VERY open to where I work post-MBA. I am from the US and have also been based in the US for jobs. I would love a job outside of the US post-MBA, but it's not a firm requirement. I am a career-switcher of sorts, so a 2 year program is critical to allow for the internship. Magically - LBS gave me a 2-year program + London life + high potential for job outside the US without closing doors for getting a job in the US (should I change my mind). They were my first choice school (again - totally agree with jacorrea).

Somehow - the fates aligned and I got into HBS. I cannot turn that opportunity down, but the decision isn't one of US vs LBS. It's HBS vs LBS.
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 20 Dec 2012, 16:26
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2012, 03:17
Well in my case, I was admitted at Booth and LBS. It is a tough decision to make. Both of them are great schools.

My post career objectives are to work in London / Europe / Middle East so I tend to think that LBS is the better choice. But Booth has a such strong momentum in its history and the better brand internationally (?).

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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2012, 06:00
Great discussion - love the comments.

I feel that at any of the top MBA schools, US and abroad, you'll get a solid education and great job coming out of it as long as you put the effort in. That being said, a big part of the MBA will be the experience we all get. Living in London and having the opportunity to travel Europe will be hard to pass up - I feel like I'm going to get a lot out of the experience outside of the MBA experience as well living in London.

Too many factors to consider! Granted, we should be all happy we're in the position to have to make such a difficult decision.
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 21 Dec 2012, 06:26
I think it might be hard to say Booth has a better brand internationally. Certainly domestically, but in Europe or the Middle East? I am not so sure.
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 24 Dec 2012, 19:37
I have two questions -

1) Do international candidates face issues in getting loans?
2) How easy is to get a UK (OR EU) work permit post MBA?

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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 08:55
What are people's opinions on LBS vs Ross / Kellogg for jobs in Industry in the Operations Management / Production Strategy fields (without considering location) ?

I know LBS is more finance oriented and am concerned about learning opportunities in these fields in LBS.. Ross and Kellogg have course content more geared towards these fields...

but then LBS is arguably of a higher reputation than the US schools I have mentioned above (atleast outside the US)...School rep vs course content ???? Dilemma...
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 27 Dec 2012, 15:42
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Now that I know my decision, I'll report on the interview I had for my LBS Round 1 application.

My interview seems to have been different than every other LBS interview report I read. Going in, I was very prepared to speak about my background, my leadership experiences and why I wanted to go to LBS, but he threw me off with questions to test my business knowledge and knowledge about the world. He asked me two questions about me: why MBA/why LBS and what type of int'l work experience I have. After that, my interviewer asked me a bunch of other questions, including:

What is the current price of oil?
What was the DOW at today?
Where do you get your news? What do you think of the future of the publishing industry?
Do you think the price of gold will go up? Why?
What do you think the future of Syria will look like?
What is the fiscal cliff?
What happened in China last week?
Who's the prime minister of Britain?

This went on for about 45 minutes. Then he also gave me a consulting case study:

How many quarters would it take to fill up our room and would that be taller than the future World Trade Center if you stacked them all up?

My presentation, I think went ok. It was about whether companies need to have integrity with their consumers.

I felt flustered and don't think I really talked about myself that much. He did say at certain points that he just wanted to see how I think and it was ok that I didn't know answers to some of his questions, so that comforted me a little.

But I'm guessing my performance in the interview played a large part in my ding notice today.

I'm really bummed about the ding. It will take me a while to get over this.


Sorry to hear about your experience. Just out of curiosity.. where did you interview?
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2013, 00:26
Hope that all the applicants have wonderful time with family!
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 01 Jan 2013, 16:12
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Sorry to hear about your experience. Just out of curiosity.. where did you interview?


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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2013, 03:20
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Well in my case, I was admitted at Booth and LBS. It is a tough decision to make. Both of them are great schools.

My post career objectives are to work in London / Europe / Middle East so I tend to think that LBS is the better choice. But Booth has a such strong momentum in its history and the better brand internationally (?).

What do you think guys?


Shooot! Congrats!

That is a tough choice though.
I don't think there's any clear answer, nor that anyone can predict which direction your life would go if you went to one and not the other. But it's probably wise to think that wherever you go, you'll be most likely there for the next 4-5 years at least!!! So think about that
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 02 Jan 2013, 03:22
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What are people's opinions on LBS vs Ross / Kellogg for jobs in Industry in the Operations Management / Production Strategy fields (without considering location) ?

I know LBS is more finance oriented and am concerned about learning opportunities in these fields in LBS.. Ross and Kellogg have course content more geared towards these fields...

but then LBS is arguably of a higher reputation than the US schools I have mentioned above (at least outside the US)...School rep vs course content ???? Dilemma...


In most cases (including yours) I'd go with school rep over course content. I find that the only time course contact/location/networking is more important than rep is in highly specialized industries. so like, if you were in Media/Film UCLA and USC might be better than Tuck/Kellogg even though they are outranked...
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 04 Jan 2013, 13:22
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Hi,

I just read your post, and I am so sorry to hear about your experience. I've been an alumni interviewer for London Business School for the past ten years, and my objective has always been to bring out the best in the candidates, and focus on selection.

The problem with alumni interviewers is that they sometimes can be very unpredictable.

In your case, I think you could have asked the school to match you with another interviewer. Your interviewer did not follow the instructions given by the school, and went off on his own.

Are you applying to other schools?

Good luck!

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Now that I know my decision, I'll report on the interview I had for my LBS Round 1 application.

My interview seems to have been different than every other LBS interview report I read. Going in, I was very prepared to speak about my background, my leadership experiences and why I wanted to go to LBS, but he threw me off with questions to test my business knowledge and knowledge about the world. He asked me two questions about me: why MBA/why LBS and what type of int'l work experience I have. After that, my interviewer asked me a bunch of other questions, including:

What is the current price of oil?
What was the DOW at today?
Where do you get your news? What do you think of the future of the publishing industry?
Do you think the price of gold will go up? Why?
What do you think the future of Syria will look like?
What is the fiscal cliff?
What happened in China last week?
Who's the prime minister of Britain?

This went on for about 45 minutes. Then he also gave me a consulting case study:

How many quarters would it take to fill up our room and would that be taller than the future World Trade Center if you stacked them all up?

My presentation, I think went ok. It was about whether companies need to have integrity with their consumers.

I felt flustered and don't think I really talked about myself that much. He did say at certain points that he just wanted to see how I think and it was ok that I didn't know answers to some of his questions, so that comforted me a little.

But I'm guessing my performance in the interview played a large part in my ding notice today.

I'm really bummed about the ding. It will take me a while to get over this.

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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Jan 2013, 09:59
Side note - I didn't see anyone comment on the AWESOME welcome packet from LBS.
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Re: LBS 2013 - Calling all MBA Applicants [#permalink] New post 07 Jan 2013, 18:07
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Side note - I didn't see anyone comment on the AWESOME welcome packet from LBS.


do share! How awesome is it ?

Note: this forum is not very lively... any more hopeful R2 applicants like me?
How long did it take in average for the R1 applicants out there to get interview invites? Do they wait for their deadline to send all invites, or do they come out before?

thanks!
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