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Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2013, 15:10
SO I just wanted to ask REAL PEOPLE (not the super smart ones who get 700+ after studying 1 month):
What the longest time you've spent studying the GMAT?

I've been studying for two years with no real results. 1 year I literally spent days on end studying with a measely 650 to show for it.


Just curious how much time everybody is spending on this.
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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2013, 16:11
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I think you have studied too long frankly.
Most folks don't study more than 6 months and I would say 60% take the GMAT after 3.5 months of studying. When I say studying, I mean deliberate and planned process to cover guidebooks/course/material. FYI - most GMAT courses are designed to be 2-3 months.

There is a reverse improvement trend going on once you spend more than 6 months studying. I would say once you bridge the 6-month mark, you start forgetting things more and more. At a certain point you are learning little (subtleties) and forgetting a lot (fundamentals).

From what I have seen over the years, very few people (i.e. nobody) improve their scores when they spread their study time over a long period of time such as a year.

Here is how I would say your prep score looks (this is just a sample but gives you an idea how the same person could score 700, 750, and 650 depending on when they took the test). This is based on a test taker who has an intense 3-month study period and then continues to study/work on questions for way too long. This was my gmat "line"

There are other charts/graphs including those who study 1-hour a day or 5 hours a week or 10 hours a week but on the beach or after work in a coffee shop while tweeting or browsing FB. That tends to look like a pretty flat line.

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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2013, 17:44
wow... that is a really nice chart.

I (obviously) dont post much, but go through many posts explaining problems, and read alot of the "gmat experiences".
I've also seen a dozen + posts about how people have studied and couldn't get the score. They go on to say that they're going to quit, but then change their mind after a couple replys when people say to "keep trying".

But technically, from the chart, it would be better to just quit no?
"keep trying" seems to me that it's mostly a time waster?
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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2013, 20:15
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Continuing what you doing is pretty futile, and yes it will get worse, so you either need to change and restart or quit.

Again, I cannot imagine what one could do preparing for a year or longer. Perhaps I am being too harsh or blind. Can you give us an example of what you have done in the last month or what you have covered/achieved?

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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 29 Sep 2013, 21:28
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SO I just wanted to ask REAL PEOPLE (not the super smart ones who get 700+ after studying 1 month):
What the longest time you've spent studying the GMAT?

I've been studying for two years with no real results. 1 year I literally spent days on end studying with a measely 650 to show for it.


Just curious how much time everybody is spending on this.


Hi,

I have been studying for 1.5 year as well. Rather I would say I have been trying blindly not studying that hard and no proper planning. I joined this forum just a month ago and I learnt how I can plan. There are loads of links where you can find how you should plan.

After giving GMAT twice and scoring no more than 600 in either of it, I have lost no hope. Rather I have learnt to be honest to myself. I should have known I hadn't studied that well that I can go and crack the exam. Just dreaming doesn't get you 700+.

After going through the links in this forum, I planned to start my preparation from scratch. Though I started from scratch, I could skip a lot of parts. Since I was good at those from the start. But then I also came across questions which I never came across before. especially in Quant. I used to think I was very good in it but couldn't score more than 44 in the actual exam. The reason was the gap in understanding and the questions which I never practiced. But after going through the GMAT Math book and through the questions, strategies the experts put up here, I have actually improved a lot. I now get around 90% accuracy in Quant. And I believe that will help my score improve a lot.

I have recently started with Grammar/Verbal portion. I hope to improve in this as well.

I didn't lose hope. You never lose until you stop trying. That's what I believe in.

May this post encourage you and change your mind and give it a last try. And Best Of Luck. Whatever decision you take remember one thing, it shouldn't haunt you in the future.

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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 30 Sep 2013, 11:27
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Stop comparing yourself with others. No one will tell you exactly how hard they studied :). It's hard to measure and harder to explain. Rather than thinking in terms of number of months/hours studied think in terms of timing and accuracy. What was your accuracy when you began and what is it now ? Are you improving. If you are stuck you need to change your approach. Careful self reflection is often sufficient to tip you towards right strategy. You will find a way.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Even after reading hundreds of debriefs on GMAT/LSAT Forums am surprised to find new tips every now and then.

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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 02 Oct 2013, 23:37
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Continuing what you doing is pretty futile, and yes it will get worse, so you either need to change and restart or quit.

Again, I cannot imagine what one could do preparing for a year or longer. Perhaps I am being too harsh or blind. Can you give us an example of what you have done in the last month or what you have covered/achieved?


Thanks for the replys.... sorry, got a little busy.

You are totally not being harsh at all.
Technically, I've been doing nothing this past month as I had already QUIT after I attempted to take a gmat practice test.

I just honestly wanted to know how long people have studied.



But since you asked what I have been doing.. here goes:

MGMAT 4th edition -> all of it
MGMAT 5th edition -> all of it
MGMAT foundations verbal/quant -> some of it
Thursdays with RON -> went through all 85 videos (yes really)

MGMAT class -> expensive as hell, but did the classroom study with about 12 other students in my class
Aristotle prep -> to supplement my verbal
GMATPILL.com -> did that after sucky results from MGMAT class

Official 12th edition -> pretty much did ALL the questions
Official 13th edition -> pretty much did ALL the questions
Official supplemental verbal/quant -> yep, did those

Office GMATPREP Q's (that I got off gmatclub, thanks!) -> yep did all those

GMATPREP test -> did those, scored highest on second test. Redid those for ~730's
My highest score was on GMATPREP 2nd test: 750

MGMAT tests -> did all 6, redid those = ended doing about 18 GMAT tests total for average of ~690


Even with all that, 650 was my highest official GMAT score.
The sad thing is my quant (which is strong) was ALWAYS ~47/49, but got a 45 on the actual test.

I pretty much spent an entire year + doing nothing but GMAT. There was a time where I had not watched TV in more than a year.
I dedicated every second to GMAT.

But honestly, the GMAT was not for me. It's pretty much been a huge time and money pit. I've pretty much tried EVERYTHING, and when I tried to do my last GMAT test, I just quit. I could not do any more problems. I don't want to sound arrogant, but I was one of the "highest" students in the MGMAT class, but when it comes to the actual tests, I just always freeze. Some people are just good at things and GMAT was just not for me.
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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 02 Oct 2013, 23:40
I forgot to add...

Yes, I did take careful error logs. I have a dozen + excel files with problems, not to mention the OG archer stats on MGMAT.

I also have notebooks upon notebooks of work.
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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2013, 07:51
Not watching TV to study for GMAT. Studying all 5th Editions books than studying all 4th edition books. There is not much difference in 2 editions except CR/IR. It would have been better to redo the 4 th edition.

Giving 18 tests is overkill unless you are already above 700 and gunning for 760+ score. It seems you have spent too much time training and not enough analyzing.

How much time do you spend on analyzing a mistake. Did you google every conceptual mistake to see if a better solution exists ?

Did you make short notes for all the Ron Videos ? Ron always focuses on takeaways. If you did not make notes than you would probably forget the non obvious technique Ron discusses.

You can benefit a lot from a tutor.

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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 03 Oct 2013, 17:11
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Not watching TV to study for GMAT. Studying all 5th Editions books than studying all 4th edition books. There is not much difference in 2 editions except CR/IR. It would have been better to redo the 4 th edition.

Giving 18 tests is overkill unless you are already above 700 and gunning for 760+ score. It seems you have spent too much time training and not enough analyzing.

How much time do you spend on analyzing a mistake. Did you google every conceptual mistake to see if a better solution exists ?

Did you make short notes for all the Ron Videos ? Ron always focuses on takeaways. If you did not make notes than you would probably forget the non obvious technique Ron discusses.

You can benefit a lot from a tutor.



For every quant, I went through a minimum of 2 ways to solve a problem.
For every verbal, I made a special template answer sheet to explicitly state why each answer was wrong.

I would say on average, I spent about 10 min per question give or take depending on the question. I've spent up to 30 minutes on one question.

I have detailed notes for every Ron video (hence the mounds of notebooks full of notes).


I have pretty much turned over every leaf in attempting to crack the GMAT but it is impossible for me.

I COULD get a tutor and spend another grand getting into the 700's, but there has to be a cutoff when you've wasted enough time and money into it. My friends always tell me to never buy a falling knife (stocks) and the GMAT/mba has been the falling knife.
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Re: Longest time people have spent trying to crack GMAT?? [#permalink] New post 04 Oct 2013, 01:05
MBA is neither necessary nor sufficient for career success. So if you are progressing in your career and are happy with it forgoing MBA can be good decision.

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