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so now, the question is: Is \((p+{sqrt q})\) = k, where k is an integer?
1) \(q = p^2\) \({sqrt q}\) = + or - p
i: if \({sqrt q}\) = p, \((p+{sqrt q})\) = 2p but we do not know whether p is an integer - may or may not be. ii: if \({sqrt q}\) = -p, \((p+{sqrt q})\) = 0 - yes.
so insuff.
2) p is a positive integer p is an integer alone is not suff as we do not know whether \({sqrt q}\) is an integer?
togather 1 and 2: yes. since p is a positive integer, \((p+{sqrt q})\) = 2p = k, where k is an integer.
Now the question as is assumed something different and said OA is A. Looks like this is an error. Isn't below the same as what I had interpreted before.
If \(q\) is a positive integer, is \(p\frac{q}{\sqrt{q}}\) an integer?
So in the GMAT, based on above explanation, the following two have different answers depending on how the expression is written though it is the same expression? I am confused...
20) If \(q\) is a positive integer, is \(p\frac{q}{\sqrt{q}}\) an integer?
1. \(q = p^2\) 2. \(p\) is a positive integer
DIFFERENT FROM
20) If \(q\) is a positive integer, is (p√q + q )/√q an integer?
Never mind. A slight misunderstanding on my part. The question is assuming NOT a mixed fraction rather it is a simple multiplication and GMAT_tiger's solution assumes the same.
My question now is does GMAT have mixed fraction questions or is it always simple multiplication. In above case, what should be interpreted?
It's my understanding (I've read this in many places) that when the gmat presents a root in the stimulus (i.e. a variable under the square root symbol) it always means the positive square root.
Whereas a variable squared could have a positive or negative root, a variable rooted will be the positive root.
If that's the case then the answer to this should be D. _________________
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It's my understanding (I've read this in many places) that when the gmat presents a root in the stimulus (i.e. a variable under the square root symbol) it always means the positive square root.
Whereas a variable squared could have a positive or negative root, a variable rooted will be the positive root.
If that's the case then the answer to this should be D.
woops I read the question wrong. Since it is asking if a something is an integer regardless if it is positive or negative. The answer is indeed A. _________________
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If q is a positive integer, is (p* (root q ) + q ) / (root q) an integer?
1.) q = p ^^ 2 2.) p is a positive integer.
note: I was not aware how to post the mathematical expression but basically its a mixed fraction which I translated to math equation.
I believe either the question or explanation might have a typo.
stmt1: q = p^2 => p = sqrt(q) so expression is q+q/root q = 2sqrt(q) not necessarily integer. stmt2: p is positive integer. Not suff since sqrt q can be real number.
combine both since p = sqrt q and p is postive integer expression= 2 sqrt q = 2p hence an integer. so, both the stmts are reqd. _________________
note: I was not aware how to post the mathematical expression but basically its a mixed fraction which I translated to math equation.
I believe either the question or explanation might have a typo.
Statement 1) I used the following variables respectively Q:1,4,1,4 P:1,2,-1,-2
With these numbers I got all YES so it is sufficient.
Statement 2) I used the following variables respectively P:1,2,3 Q:1,2,3
When you plug these numbers into the original statement you will get Yes, No, No. Insufficient.
A is the answer. _________________
I'm trying to not just answer the problem but to explain how I came up with my answer. If I am incorrect or you have a better method please PM me your thoughts. Thanks!
note: I was not aware how to post the mathematical expression but basically its a mixed fraction which I translated to math equation.
I believe either the question or explanation might have a typo.
Statement 1) I used the following variables respectively Q:1,4,1,4 P:1,2,-1,-2
With these numbers I got all YES so it is sufficient.
Statement 2) I used the following variables respectively P:1,2,3 Q:1,2,3
When you plug these numbers into the original statement you will get Yes, No, No. Insufficient.
A is the answer.
You are wrong there, my friend. For S1, you have already demonstrated that expression can be integer, now what if: Q = 0.09, P = 0.3? The expression does not solve as integer. Hence 1 alone is not sufficient.
Now the expression \(p\frac{q}{\sqrt{q}}\) can be reduced to \(p + {\sqrt{q}\), which will be an integer only if \(p\) is an integer, and \(q\) is a perfect square of an integer. Both 1 and 2 together are sufficient. _________________
note: I was not aware how to post the mathematical expression but basically its a mixed fraction which I translated to math equation.
I believe either the question or explanation might have a typo.
Statement 1) I used the following variables respectively Q:1,4,1,4 P:1,2,-1,-2
With these numbers I got all YES so it is sufficient.
Statement 2) I used the following variables respectively P:1,2,3 Q:1,2,3
When you plug these numbers into the original statement you will get Yes, No, No. Insufficient.
A is the answer.
You are wrong there, my friend. For S1, you have already demonstrated that expression can be integer, now what if: Q = 0.09, P = 0.3? The expression does not solve as integer. Hence 1 alone is not sufficient.
Now the expression \(p\frac{q}{\sqrt{q}}\) can be reduced to \(p + {\sqrt{q}\), which will be an integer only if \(p\) is an integer, and \(q\) is a perfect square of an integer. Both 1 and 2 together are sufficient.
It states Q is a positive integer. Q cannot be 0.09. Am I missing something? _________________
I'm trying to not just answer the problem but to explain how I came up with my answer. If I am incorrect or you have a better method please PM me your thoughts. Thanks!
Am a lil confused. The ques says q is a positive andnothing abt p int Consider option 1 whr q=p^2 so if q is 3 p=sqrt of 3 then how is only stmt1 sufficient? IMO c!!
The expression above will remain an integer even if \(p\) is a negative root. It will just be a negative integer. Let me know if I'm missing anything here.
Aminayak wrote:
Am a lil confused. The ques says q is a positive andnothing abt p int Consider option 1 whr q=p^2 so if q is 3 p=sqrt of 3 then how is only stmt1 sufficient? IMO c!!
Solving given expression we have p * q/sqrt(q) = p * sqrt(q)?
1. Sufficient q = p^2 => p= sqrt(q)
=> p * sqrt(q) = sqrt(q) * sqrt(q) = +q or -q
as q is an integer , +q , -q are both integers. 2. Not sufficient.
p is a positive integer, but we dont whether q is a perfect square or not. if q is a perfect square , given expression is an integer. if q is not a perfect square, given expression is not an integer.
(2) \(p\) is a positive integer --> \(p\frac{q}{\sqrt{q}}=integer*\sqrt{q}\). This product may or may not be an integer depending on \(q\). Not sufficient.