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If x and y represent digits of a two digit number divisible by 3, is the two digit number less than 50? 1. Sum of the digits is a multiple of 18 2. Product of the digits is a multiple of 9 Source: GMAT Club Tests - hardest GMAT questions I answered E (Statements 1+2 together are not sufficient), thinking that the number could be either 99 or -99. The answer says A (statement 1 is sufficient), because the only solution can be 99. Is the answer wrong or am I missing something? What about -99?
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Hi river, If you consider -99, then what are the values of x & y? It can only be (-9 & 9) OR (9 & -9) respectively. In either case, you get their sum as 0, which is not a multiple of 18. So, it doesn't satisfy option 1. Does it make sense? HTH. Regards, Technext
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Technext wrote: Hi river,
If you consider -99, then what are the values of x & y?
It can only be (-9 & 9) OR (9 & -9) respectively. In either case, you get their sum as 0, which is not a multiple of 18. So, it doesn't satisfy option 1.
Does it make sense? HTH.
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Technext 0 is a multiple of any numer or integer. Even if the integer is 99 or -99, the sum is a multiple of 18. However it is confusing about to how to assign the value of x and y if the integer is -99. So A is insuff... river wrote: If x and y represent digits of a two digit number divisible by 3, is the two digit number less than 50?
1. Sum of the digits is a multiple of 18
2. Product of the digits is a multiple of 9
I answered E (Statements 1+2 together are not sufficient), thinking that the number could be either 99 or -99. The answer says A (statement 1 is sufficient), because the only solution can be 99.
Is the answer wrong or am I missing something? What about -99?
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Hi GMAT TIGER, Thanks for clarifying this; I actually came across this fact just few months back only but it just skipped. Thanks again. Although you've quoted that the problem is confusing, at last you've mentioned in your reply that ' So A is suff...'. If 99 & -99 both satisfy option 1, then how can we conclude that A is sufficient? Do you agree with A as the right answer? Regards, Technext
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Technext wrote: Hi GMAT TIGER,
Thanks for clarifying this; I actually came across this fact just few months back only but it just skipped. Thanks again.
Although you've quoted that the problem is confusing, at last you've mentioned in your reply that 'So A is suff...'. If 99 & -99 both satisfy option 1, then how can we conclude that A is sufficient? Do you agree with A as the right answer?
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Technext Thats typo. A is insuff. Thanks.
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GMAT TIGER,
I agree with you. First of all, the number -99 is a negative integer with 2 digits (9 and 9). A digit is an integer from 0 to 9. There is no "negative digit", so we can't have a digit equal to -9.
So, from what I understand, the GMATclub answer to that question is wrong, right? It should be E instead of A.
(Indeed, even for the case of -9 and 9, the sum is 0, which i a multiple of 18, as 18*0=0.. but that's not part of this solution).
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river wrote: GMAT TIGER,
I agree with you. First of all, the number -99 is a negative integer with 2 digits (9 and 9). A digit is an integer from 0 to 9. There is no "negative digit", so we can't have a digit equal to -9.
So, from what I understand, the GMATclub answer to that question is wrong, right? It should be E instead of A.
(Indeed, even for the case of -9 and 9, the sum is 0, which i a multiple of 18, as 18*0=0.. but that's not part of this solution). That should be unless there is nothing hidden issues related digit/integer. I am little skeptical about -99. 
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I am not very sure if for -99 we can take the digits as (-9,9) or (9,-9) because the -ve sign is for the whole number and not for individual digits I feel... Can somebody throw some light on this please... 
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I came across this problem. Can anyone throw some light on the choices? Is it A or E.
Things to consider: Is 0 a multiple of any integer? If true then 0 will be LCM of nay number.
Pl. help.........
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gmatprep09 wrote: I came across this problem. Can anyone throw some light on the choices? Is it A or E.
Things to consider: Is 0 a multiple of any integer? If true then 0 will be LCM of nay number.
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bb wrote: gmatprep09 wrote: I came across this problem. Can anyone throw some light on the choices? Is it A or E.
Things to consider: Is 0 a multiple of any integer? If true then 0 will be LCM of nay number.
Pl. help......... Have you considered purchasing GMAT Club Tests Access? You would get access to the official answers and explanations. so what's the verdict bb? the explanation concludes that 99 IS indeed THE only two digit number that justifies the sufficiency of S1. It doesn't, however, address the possibility of having 0 as a multiple of 18.
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river wrote: If x and y represent digits of a two digit number divisible by 3, is the two digit number less than 50?
1. Sum of the digits is a multiple of 18
2. Product of the digits is a multiple of 9
I answered E (Statements 1+2 together are not sufficient), thinking that the number could be either 99 or -99. The answer says A (statement 1 is sufficient), because the only solution can be 99.
Is the answer wrong or am I missing something? What about -99? Answer is A. for 1), "Sum of the digits is a multiple of 18" tells that x=y=9 only, and 99 is divisible by 3. But it >50 it is a "No, but sufficient to tell No" question. for 2), "Product of the digits is a multiple of 9" and with "a two digit number divisible by 3" xy can be 63 or 36, insuf. So the answer is A for sure.
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there is no way we can take a single digit of a two digit no as a negative.....not possible..its clearly A
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IMO A.
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Can anyone tell me wat level question is this?
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imo no higher than 600-700 level. Not a difficult question. As discussed above a "digit" cannot be negative, i.e. -3541—who can tell which digit is negative? Is it the 3 or the 1? Illogical point. So the only way a two-digit number can have its digits add up to 18 is if they were 9 and 9, hence 99 > 50. For (2) 3*3 can total 9, a multiple of 3, or 6*6 can total 36, which is also a multiple of 3, but > 50. A it is.
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Option A for me too.
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A. 0 is not a universal multiple. The negative in a negative number cannot be assigned to a digit of the number; it's a property of the entire number, not of a digit i.e. -(99) != (-9)(9) or (9)(-9).
Thanks for the post.
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I opted A but, since x = y = 9 from first statement, the two digit number can be -99 or 99 that is divisible by 3. One is less than 50 and other is greater than 50. Can someone clear this contention?
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supoose the two digit number is xy so the value of the number will be 10x + y which is divisible by 3 ( x=1 to 9 and y = 1to 9) Now with the 1st option x+y=18 and the only case is 99 which is more than 50. For the option 2, for example we can take 63 and 36 both are satisfying so we cant deduce the number. Hence the Answer should be A.
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