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Could you please explain why C should be a multiple of 5?
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I did this slightly differently.
We have 100 = 3C + 5W = 3 (C+W) + 2W = 9S + 2W.
Now we know W>S. If S = 14, 17, W will be negative which is not possible. So D, E are eliminated.
If S = 10, W=2 not possible since W>S. Not C.
If S = 5, then W = 55/2 which is not integer. Not possible.
So S has to be 8, which gives W = 14. Looks good.
Answer = B.
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first of all, I would like to thank you for your help
Actually, I didn't understand how 100 equal 1C+1W+4W+2C as well as why C should be a multiple of 5 for 3C+5W to add up to 100. and How we get these two pairs: (5, 17) and (10, 14).

Highly appreciate your help
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first of all, I would like to thank you for your help
Actually, I didn't understand how 100 equal 1C+1W+4W+2C as well as why C should be a multiple of 5 for 3C+5W to add up to 100. and How we get these two pairs: (5, 17) and (10, 14).

Highly appreciate your help


1. We are given that together, cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads. A cow has 1 head and 4 feet and a chicken has 1 head and 2 feet, so 100=1C+1W+4W+2C. This is also answered in the solution. Check highlighted parts below.

Chickens and cows together have 100 feet and heads: \(100=1C+1W+4W+2C\), assuming that 1 is the number of heads per either unit and 4 and 2 are the number of legs per \(C\) and \(W\) accordingly. Therefore: \(100 = 3C + 5W\).

2. Your second question is answered here: m06-183709.html#p1452616

3. This is also addressed in the solution - it's done by number picking.
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Let \(K\) be a number of chickens, \(C\) - cows, and \(S\) - sheep.

Translation the word question into formulas:

chickens and cows combined is 3 times the number of sheep: \(K\) + \(C\) = 3\(S\).......1

Chickens and cows together have 100 feet and heads: \(3K + 5C=100\). It is known that chicken has 1 head and 2 feet and cow has 1 head and 4 feet...........2

cows than chickens or sheep: C> K & S............3

From 1: K=3S - C

Apply into 2 , we get: 9S+2C=100..... Here I want to make one equation in sheep and cow to make use of the info in (3).

Let's analyze the equation above, 100 is even & 2C is even so 9S MUST be even too. Hence S is even number...........Eliminate choices A & E

Rearrange 2: C= 50- (9S)/2

Plug in choice B, S=8 .......C=14 ......C>S........our target answer.

You may want to examine choice C, S=10..........C=5......C<S... incorrect

Answer: B
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A farm has chickens, cows and sheep. The number of chickens and cows combined is 3 times the number of sheep. If there are more cows than chickens or sheep, and together, cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads, how many sheep live at the farm?

A. 5
B. 8
C. 10
D. 14
E. 17


I am surprised more people in the comments above have not attempted an answer-first approach, given that this question is asking about a single unknown--i.e. what is the value of such-and-such? Such an approach can lead to a quick and assuredly accurate answer. (An aside: I agree that the phrasing of the question could be clarified a bit: instead of "a total of 100 feet and heads" which I myself interpreted as 100 feet and 100 heads (before realizing that such an interpretation proved untenable), the question could probably use a switch to "a total of 100 feet and heads combined," or the "and together" could be moved and tweaked, as in, "and cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads altogether." No more room for confusion.) Why not start with a (B) or (D) answer to use as a gauge? I started with (D):

If there are 14 sheep, then 3 times the number of sheep means that there are 14 * 3, or 42 chickens and cows combined. Knowing that there must be more cows than chickens within this barnyard subgroup, then at a bare minimum, there will be 22 cows. 22 cows = 22 * 4 (legs) + 22 (heads) = 88 + 22 = 110 extremities. Too high. There is no need to even bring in the chickens. Scrap (D) and (E). Importantly, we can now test (B), knowing that the number in the middle of the remaining responses will either be the answer itself or point directly to what the answer needs to be (higher or lower). Assume there are 8 sheep and repeat the process:

If there are 8 sheep, then there will be 8 * 3, or 24 chickens and cows combined. At a bare minimum, there will be 13 cows. 13 * 4 (legs) + 13 (heads) = 52 + 13 = 65 extremities. Time for the chickens: 11 * 2 (legs) + 11 (heads) = 22 + 11 = 33 extremities. 65 (cow extremities) + 33 (chicken extremities) = 98 extremities. Our extremity count is a little low, but 98 is tantalizingly close, and if you can appreciate that the cow-to-chicken extremity ratio (perhaps the first time in the English language these words have been paired together) is 5:3 (from 4 legs + 1 head to 2 legs + 1 head), then you can see that all we need to do is swap out a chicken for a cow. For the must-have-proof nagging voice in your mind...

If there are 14 cows and 10 chickens, then there will be (14 * 4 + 14) + (10 * 2 + 10) extremities, and that we can work quickly: (56 + 14) + (20 + 10) = (70) + (30) = 100. Can we tick all the boxes of the question stem?

Farm Animals:
chickens
cows
sheep

Chickens + cows = 3 times the number of sheep:
10 chickens + 14 cows = 3 * 8 sheep
24 = 24

More cows than chickens or sheep:
14 cows, 10 chickens, 8 sheep

Cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads together:
(See above)

There is no room for doubt. The problem took me a little over a minute, even with the setback in the beginning of misinterpreting the extremity count. I had a lot of fun with this question, even if I felt a bit like a butcher. I hope maybe you enjoyed the problem, too (if you made it this far).

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A farm has chickens, cows and sheep. The number of chickens and cows combined is 3 times the number of sheep. If there are more cows than chickens or sheep, and together, cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads, how many sheep live at the farm?

A. 5
B. 8
C. 10
D. 14
E. 17


Let \(C\) be a number of chickens, \(W\) - cows, and \(S\) - sheep.

Chickens and cows together have 100 feet and heads: \(100=1C+1W+4W+2C\), assuming that 1 is the number of heads per either unit and 4 and 2 are the number of legs per \(C\) and \(W\) accordingly. Therefore: \(100 = 3C + 5W\).

It is given that \(W \gt C\), and we also see that \(C\) should be a multiple of 5 for \(3C + 5W\) to add up to 100. Picking a few numbers, we get two pairs: (5, 17) and (10, 14).

\(S = \frac{(C+W)}{3}\); \(5 + 17 = 22\) which is not divisible by 3, but \(10 + 14 = 24\) which is divisible by 3, therefore only the second pair will work. So, \(S = 8\).


Answer: B



I am unable to wrap my head around this equation. 100=1C+1W+4W+2C. I understand that co-efficient 4 & 2 are taken for legs, and co-efficients 1 & 1 are taken for heads. But how can the variables be the same? Number of cows and chickens are assumed W & C, so in the equation it means 4 cows and 2 chickens and not legs. Same for heads. Should we not assign different variables which would complicate the answer but would make sense?

Can you help me fill the gap here? Bunuel bb KarishmaB chetan2u
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Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:

A farm has chickens, cows and sheep. The number of chickens and cows combined is 3 times the number of sheep. If there are more cows than chickens or sheep, and together, cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads, how many sheep live at the farm?

A. 5
B. 8
C. 10
D. 14
E. 17


Let \(C\) be a number of chickens, \(W\) - cows, and \(S\) - sheep.

Chickens and cows together have 100 feet and heads: \(100=1C+1W+4W+2C\), assuming that 1 is the number of heads per either unit and 4 and 2 are the number of legs per \(C\) and \(W\) accordingly. Therefore: \(100 = 3C + 5W\).

It is given that \(W \gt C\), and we also see that \(C\) should be a multiple of 5 for \(3C + 5W\) to add up to 100. Picking a few numbers, we get two pairs: (5, 17) and (10, 14).

\(S = \frac{(C+W)}{3}\); \(5 + 17 = 22\) which is not divisible by 3, but \(10 + 14 = 24\) which is divisible by 3, therefore only the second pair will work. So, \(S = 8\).


Answer: B



I am unable to wrap my head around this equation. 100=1C+1W+4W+2C. I understand that co-efficient 4 & 2 are taken for legs, and co-efficients 1 & 1 are taken for heads. But how can the variables be the same? Number of cows and chickens are assumed W & C, so in the equation it means 4 cows and 2 chickens and not legs. Same for heads. Should we not assign different variables which would complicate the answer but would make sense?

Can you help me fill the gap here? Bunuel bb KarishmaB chetan2u



We are calculating number of heads and legs.
Now, a normal cow will have 4 legs and 1 head, so total 5 items per cow are to be calculated. If each cow has 5 and number of cows are C, then total items are 5C. Similarly, in case of chickens with 2 legs and a head, total number is 3X.
Total 5C+3X.

Rather if you have sheep, cow and horses and number of total heads + legs are 100, then 5A= 100 or A=20, that is total number of animals on the farm are 20.
We don’t require separate variables as they represent same thing, a thing with 4 heads and 1 leg.
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A farm has chickens, cows and sheep. The number of chickens and cows combined is 3 times the number of sheep. If there are more cows than chickens or sheep, and together, cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads, how many sheep live at the farm?

A. 5
B. 8
C. 10
D. 14
E. 17



Different ways-

(1) Use options

Start with middle number - 10, so number of cows and chickens =30.
Minimum Number of heads and legs of cows and chickens combined = 16*5+14*3 = 80+42 =122>100
So, it has to be less than 10.

Next number - 8, so number of cows and chickens =24.
Minimum Number of heads and legs of cows and chickens combined = 13*5+11*3 = 65+33 =98<100
Max number = 24*5=120
So, it fits in as we can have more cows- 14, 15 and so on. We will check the option again if A also fits in.

Next number - 5, so number of cows and chickens =15.
Minimum Number of heads and legs of cows and chickens combined = 8*5+7*3 = 40+21 =71<100
Maximum number of heads and legs = 5*15=75, which is still less than 100.


(2) Algebraic

Let the number of cows, sheep and chickens be c, s and x.
Each cow and sheep will have 4 legs and 1 head, so 5, while each chicken will have 3.
Thus, 5c+3x=100. We also know c>x and we can say that x is a multiple of 5 and c will not be a multiple of 3.

So we take x=5 to get 5C+15=100 or c=17.
Next, x=10 to get 5C+30=100 or c=14.
Next, x=15 to get 5C+45=100 or c=11. But here on x>c so discard.
Possible values of (c,x): (17,5) and (14,10)

Now, c+x=3*s, so c+x has to be a multiple of 3.
17+5=22, which is not a multiple of 3. Discard
14+10=24=8*3. Perfect and x=8.


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Bunuel wrote:
Official Solution:

A farm has chickens, cows and sheep. The number of chickens and cows combined is 3 times the number of sheep. If there are more cows than chickens or sheep, and together, cows and chickens have a total of 100 feet and heads, how many sheep live at the farm?

A. 5
B. 8
C. 10
D. 14
E. 17


Let \(C\) be a number of chickens, \(W\) - cows, and \(S\) - sheep.

Chickens and cows together have 100 feet and heads: \(100=1C+1W+4W+2C\), assuming that 1 is the number of heads per either unit and 4 and 2 are the number of legs per \(C\) and \(W\) accordingly. Therefore: \(100 = 3C + 5W\).

It is given that \(W \gt C\), and we also see that \(C\) should be a multiple of 5 for \(3C + 5W\) to add up to 100. Picking a few numbers, we get two pairs: (5, 17) and (10, 14).

\(S = \frac{(C+W)}{3}\); \(5 + 17 = 22\) which is not divisible by 3, but \(10 + 14 = 24\) which is divisible by 3, therefore only the second pair will work. So, \(S = 8\).


Answer: B



I am unable to wrap my head around this equation. 100=1C+1W+4W+2C. I understand that co-efficient 4 & 2 are taken for legs, and co-efficients 1 & 1 are taken for heads. But how can the variables be the same? Number of cows and chickens are assumed W & C, so in the equation it means 4 cows and 2 chickens and not legs. Same for heads. Should we not assign different variables which would complicate the answer but would make sense?

Can you help me fill the gap here? Bunuel bb KarishmaB chetan2u



Take some values to understand this. Say I have 1 cow. How many feet and heads do I have? 4 feet and 1 head so total 5 feet and heads.
Say I have 1 cow and 1 chicken. How many feet and heads do I have now? Total = 4 feet (from cow) + 2 feet (from chicken) + 1 head from cow + 1 head from chicken = 8
Now what if I have 3 cows and 2 chickens?
I will have Total = 4*3 feet (from cows) + 2*2 feet (from chickens) + 1*3 heads from cows + 1*2 heads from chickens

So if C were the number of cows and K the number of chickens,
Total = 4*C + 2*K + 1*C + 1*K

This is the equation used.
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My take on this problem with less numbers to plug (since I hate looking for numbers to plug)

With the same first few steps as Bunuel's, we arrived at
\(5W + 3C =100.....(1)\)

we also have from the question stem
\(C + W = 3S\)
or
\(5W + 5C = 15S.....(2)\)

subtracting equation (2) and (1), we hava
\(2C = 15S - 100\)
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\(C = \frac{15}{2}S - 50\)

Now, remember that we have an INTEGER CONSTRAINT, which means the numbers of chickens, sheeps, and cows must be integers (we cant have a half chicken unless they're ready to be cooked lol)

The constraint infer that \(S\) must be an even number, so options (A) and (E) are out.
Now lets consider the other answers

(B)
\(S = 8\)
\(C = 60 - 50 = 10\)
So we have 10 chickens, fair enough.
For completeness, we also have 14 cows, thus satisfying all of our equalities and inequalities

(C)
\(S = 10\)
\(C = 75 - 50 = 25\)
Now we have 25 chickens, but inserting the numbers to eq (1), we have 5 cows, deviating our constraint of \(W > C\).

Same goes for option (D), though we dont need to check as the number of cows will even be lower
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I have edited the question and the solution by adding more details to enhance its clarity. I hope it is now easier to understand.
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I think this is a high-quality question and I agree with explanation.
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